Am I paying too much ?

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:06
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Hiya Folks,

I am about to purchase a trailer for our trip around Oz and was after a little feedback as to if we are getting a good deal or not....

Its a brand new 6x4 trailer
Offroad, checkerplate model.
With a fitted lockable top (like a tradesmens trailer - both sides come up )
New 4x4 wheels and rims
Spare wheel mounted on front
2 jerry can holders
9kg gas bottle mount
Jockey wheel

Asking price - $3000

What do you think ???
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:36

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:36
Is that an Obriens Dandenong?

What brand is it?
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Reply By: AdamMC - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:44

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:44
Its at Victorian Campers in Sunbury
Not sure on the brand, think they do them custom
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Reply By: Willie - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:51

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:51
Do you have to buy new?

My trailer which is very similar to yours cost $800 second hand and then I fitted a Treg Coupling for $200 including welding.

Shop around...you can buy a lot of travelling accesories for the $2000 difference.

Cheers,

Willie
Never a dull moment
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Reply By: flappan - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:07

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:07
Price seems about right.

We looked at a few off road trailers to put a tent unit on top and found them to be between $2000 to $3000 depending on whats on them.

I think its probably "top end" price, but yeah, seems about right.
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Reply By: Member - Toonfish - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:42

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:42
sounds like a cameron ?1999 NISSAN NAVARA DUALCAB
DIESEL 3.2 & SPRINGY CARLTON TOY
2 awestruck kids (dads driving!)
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Reply By: Member - Wherethehellawi - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:43

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:43
Sounds a bit dear IMO
Trailers depreciate very quickly from new to "a price" and then do not seem to depreciate any further.....that is to say 2nd hand are generally good buys and then Appreciate to keep up with increased costs for new.

Eg I bought my 6x2 around 18 yrs ago for $80.00 Try getting a 2nd trailer for that cost now. Wow! am I cute
If yer ain't fishing, Yer ain't livin
Richard
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Follow Up By: Mark from Getaway Portable Refrigerator Hire - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 19:01

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 19:01
Richard, Probably got it cheap because it was so thin.....

Regards

Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - Wherethehellawi - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:59

Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:59
typing error Mark
that should have been 6 x 4
all thumbs i am ...must learn to proof read eh lolWow! am I cute
If yer ain't fishing, Yer ain't livin
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Follow Up By: Hilly - Thursday, Oct 02, 2003 at 22:35

Thursday, Oct 02, 2003 at 22:35
What was your weekly wage 18 years ago? How many trailers per week?

Hilly
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Reply By: DARREN - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 13:43

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 13:43
Adam, I don't think it sounds too bad with the lockable top etc, I actually did a fair bit of homework and bought a second hand one a couple of months ago to take up to cape york. A couple of things to consider, different manufacturers have very different "off road" specs. and i would suggest that you ensure that you are getting a good sized axle & top quality springs (hopefully with rebound dampeners also), u bolts, plates etc. After I bought mine I went to Melbourne trailers who sell sell all these bits to get spares just in case, (very helpful and sell good stuff) which fortunately I did not need to use on the trip. Looking at other trailers up the cape (several broken on the side of the road) I really noticed the big variation in products.
One more thing, you did not mention stone guard, without one if you have a wagon you will sand blast the back of the car and probably break the back window (the spare on the front of the trailer will exacerbate this problem)
Some food for thought
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Reply By: flappan - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 14:49

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 14:49
Its all relative.

I personally wouldn't be taking a 2nd hand cheap "offroad" trailer of dobious background (paint is a wonderful thing) to the Cape. I would be wanting something I know would last the distance, therefore either a brand new one from a reputable trailer mob (O"briens, Cameron, and Simon Heard are 3 off the top of my head), or a 2nd handy from the same crew that checks out real well, would be an absolute minimum.

Home mades (unless a qualified welder and engineer) and some of these "offroad trailers that are barely more then beefed up tradesman trailers, I would leave well alone.
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Reply By: AdamMC - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 18:41

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 18:41
Wow ! Thanks for the great response everyone :)

I am pretty sure the companies workmanship compares to the likes of Obriens.

http://www.victoriancampertrailers.com.au

I'll be honest and say Im not too mechanically minded. What should I ask about the suspension to ensure it is of good quality ?

Any extras's that it should have ?

Thanks in advance
Adam
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Follow Up By: Member - Cocka - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 23:30

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 23:30
If you ask any salesman "Is it good"? you know what the answer will be, "trust me".
Take your time, don't be in too much of a hurry and look around. If you look at the really expensive ones like Kimberley Kampers & Ultimate & look at their suspension you will see why you pay so much for them but you can take them anywhere. I'm not suggesting to buy these just a benchmark comparison.
Get underneath and have a look. If your not totally mechanical get a mate to help you.
There can be nothing worse for the holidy than taking a lemon that leaves you stuck on the side of the road with a busted axel or collapsed bearing. Think it through - how would you handle that situation ?
Sorry if I sound tough but it's a reality check.Carpe Diem
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Follow Up By: flappan - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 08:58

Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 08:58
Couple of things for you.

Suspension. If it has standard Slipper springs, walk away.

At the very minimum they should be eye to eye 7 leaf springs, even better is if they are Rebound Springs (eye to eye with an extra spring added). Independant Suspension is good but probably expensive overkill for this.

Make sure the welds on the trailer are full welds and not spot welds.

Get the longest drawbar you can. 6ft is good. Makes backing the thing easier. Spare is mounted Upright and not layed down (can fit a tool box in with cutting and welding.

Solid square axle (45X45mm from memory) and try and get the wheel width and wheels and tyres to match your vehicle.

Get a swing to the side tail gate, not a swing down, and make sure it seals properly.
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Follow Up By: flappan - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:02

Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:02
Just had a quick look at their website. Doesn't look like they make their own but sell Cameron Trailers . . . if so . . . thats a good start, they do a pretty good trailer.
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Reply By: ian - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 20:19

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 20:19
Adam,
Darren makes sense in his reply, but I would add that I would get a 7x4 rather than 6x4. I think it makes a big difference.
I would also have 18" sides, not 12"
Try Carac trailers in Dandenong also.
Ian
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Reply By: AdamMC - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:23

Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:23
Okie Dokie....

I just got off the phone with them. Sounds like it has everything you all reccommended !

Its made by 'Australian Trailers'
18" sides
45mm full solid axle
eye to eye 7 leaf springs with rebound springs
Coupling (360 degree)

Think I found my trailer :)

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Follow Up By: flappan - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:09

Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:09
Sounds like you're on the right track.

Have you seen one yet ???

It may be worth doing a comparision between a couple, like say an O'Briens etc, who are known for quality trailers. That way if the one your looking at is the same or close to it . . . you have yourself a winner.

Good luck.
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Reply By: Glen from Tough Country Off Road Campers P/L - Friday, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:51

Friday, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:51
Hi Adam ,
Check us out mate for our quality and value we are based at Victotian camper trailers or see us at the 4x4 national show 23rd october or go to our web site
www.toughcountry.com.au hope this helps
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