upgrade old faithful?

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 17, 2010 at 17:51
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I am considering selling my '97 hzj75 trayback and going to the latest 70 series.

My vehicle has travelled 270k.km. with an A/M turbo fitted. Goes extremely well, economy not towing 11.5l/100km, towing 1.8t. fuel tanker/trailer 15.6l/100km. (av.).

Because I understand the basic diesel injection system and transmission (worked with dozers/excavators for years) I do ALL my maintenance/repair work. (not that this one, or its previous required much).

So I ask of current owners, how does the new v8 diesel fit in with non dealer sevice/maintenance?

Does it have any real flaws in rugged offroad situations? I have read that the different front/rear wheel tracks cause concern in wet/rough track conditions.

This, like my current vehicle would have to be a real "workhorse" and required to cop it tough in very remote country.

Interested to receive all comment.
furph
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Reply By: The Boss (Formerly Kroozer) - Sunday, Jan 17, 2010 at 18:43

Sunday, Jan 17, 2010 at 18:43
I would love one, but for the record i would also just love a 2nd hand Trayback with the 4.2 Turbo motor in it just as much. I love the power of the V8, but its just not proven enough yet in remote travel. Too many different stories revolving about them, good/bad/truth/lies. Heard they are very hard to get parts for too up here, but again truth/lies who knows.

And yes, the rear wheel track issue is a concern but very minimal i have heard. I certainly never felt anything when i drove a Troopy V8 off road.

I suppose its really comes down to, do you want Common Rail Diesel or not?
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Follow Up By: furph - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:38

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:38
TB.
Are they a common rail engine?
My understanding is they are similar to the 6 in being electronic controlled injection.
I dont want common rail anything, leave that for the euro. vehicles
furph
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:51

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:51
Apologies Bossman don't want to tread on any toes

furph yes they are common rail

Cheers Pop
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Reply By: qubert - Sunday, Jan 17, 2010 at 20:43

Sunday, Jan 17, 2010 at 20:43
buy a good 79 series factory turbo 6. they go good and are strong and reliable and proven!!!
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Sunday, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:28

Sunday, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:28
G'day furph,

Just went through the agonizing of selling my 75 and upgrading to the latest V8 turbo diesel. As the rest of the vehicle was still going ok and being a diesel mech I have decided to keep my $60,000 or so in my pocket and fit a 1HD-FT to the old girl . (ute not SWMBO (;-)) ) I reckon even if the price of diesel goes bananas again I can still get a fair bit for the $40,000 or so bucks that I saved and no worries about any issues with what I consider to be a fairly new and yet to prove itself engine.
I guess if you just want a new vehicle then the decision is fairly simple... you only have to decide which brand. Have you (I guess you already have) considered spending a few bob on what you already have..

Good luck on what you eventually decide

Cheers Pop
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Follow Up By: furph - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:50

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:50
Pop.
You make a very valid argument, why spend that amount of money when so much of the rest of it is basically 75 series.

I know the 76 1hdft is a very good unit but only made so by the engine performance.

I have been thinking along the lines that there are some "bikkies in the tin" (I would only buy new), the old girl has been 100% reliable, but does that go on forever.
I also have 6 spares (wheels, that is) polyair bags fitted, 9000lb. winch, dual batteries, radio's, built in satphone etc. which all come into the changeover equation.

Plus I wont be working remote forever so your suggestion is making a whole lot of sense.
Will apply some more thought, and thanks for your comments.
furph
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Follow Up By: furph - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:51

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:51
Ooops, should have said 791HD-FT.
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:54

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:54
Furph

With all that gear and a chassis that must be almost as good as new you could even fit a new long motor and still be tens of thousands in front.

Bob
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:36

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:36
What about another Landy??....LOL



Cheers Axle
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Follow Up By: furph - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:53

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:53
Axle probably recalls that I do indeed have a '97 300tdi Disco., and no, she is a long way from being up for replacement.
Now at 210k.km. has had 1 rear diff pinion seal replaced, the ONLY oil leak in its life. But then it does have a very easy time of it compared to the workhorse.

There is also a'76 s111 2.25d. in the backyard but sadly last years severe frosts got at the water pump which now (only) leaks with the engine running.
Wonder what sort of trade I would get for her?

Got a Toyota quote this morning to change over my L/C c/chassis for new similar:..................$53750.00
With a smile I was told "but it is a no more to pay deal"!

I think the decision has been made up for me, but as I said to the missus, it seemed like a good idea at the time!!
furph
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Reply By: Haza - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:00

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:00
The quality of fuel in remote areas would be questionable for the new diesel.
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