The value of rotating tyres,

Submitted: Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:26
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I've always rotated tyres. Mainly because the book "say's so"

Maybe it makes them last a deal longer, maybe it doesn't. My guess is it probably does help.

I did mine on the Troopy this afternoon, 2 spares to the front. Front's to the rear and rears to spare just like always.

I also check the 6 tyres for damaged sidewalls, nails, nicks etc.

Glad I did, this is the one from right rear,



So I guess the plan does more than extend wear life, it actually extends my life too.

The cut appears to go all the way to the inner belt without penetrating it. No idea where or how I did it, just somewhere, sometime in the last 10,000 k's.

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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:32

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:32
Hi Geoff,
Yep, rotate mine every 10,000 as well.
When I've got it off, I have a good Captain Cook at them.
I can see how they are wearing, and check out if there are any screws/nails or wire stuck in them as you said.
I also reckon it prolongs their life.
It does pay Geoff to do the simple little things.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:52

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:52
Hi Jon,
It does pay to do the simple things.

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Reply By: travelmate2 - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:35

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:35
Geoff

whys it look like it's got goo in it?
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:50

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:50
The "goo" is the underlying white rubber for the lettering.

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Follow Up By: travelmate2 - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 21:08

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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:44

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:44
Are you running white to the inside or to the outside LOL


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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:51

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:51
I think you already know the answer to that one young Kev!

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PS, In case you've forgotten, always to the inside.

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Reply By: kend88 - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 21:27

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 21:27
By rotating you are probably going to get some value out of the spare.
Otherwise, you eventually get left with a spare that has a different tread pattern, and/or past it's used by date and you should probably discard it.
So using four tyres only and you get 80,000 km out of them, would have got 96,000km if the spare was in the rotation.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 21:35

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 21:35
Hi Geoff
Yes it was very lucky that you did them when you did, and not travelling on the open road at 110 kph and bang. I rotate my tyres every 5000 and does it work ? - I will never know as by rotating that way the tyre wear front and back is usually the same. I hope the tyre did not have much tyre life lest, as side wall damage is terminal. On our last trip, I collected a very nice piece of large mulga and straight through the side wall of a rear tyre with well over 3/4 tread life left.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 22:18

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 22:18
Hi Stephen,
Very true on the 110kph comment, I'm off to Singleton in the Upper Hunter Valley tomorrow. I'll have a reasonable run at 100kph.

The cost isn't to dramatic at all, the tyre is in the last third of its life and I didn't pay that much for it to start with.

I bought 5 Cooper 285-75x16 ST's on eBay from a bloke locally for $900. The 4 on the road still had the tread mould teats on them!

He had fitted them to a late model Nissan wagon. His wife had short legs and couldn't climb in anymore. He had to get rid of them and fit 265-75's for her!

There's a truck, earth moving and mining tyre supply-repair place about 5 minutes from home. I'm going to give them a look at it later in the week. If they say terminal then it's terminal.

Mulga roots and tyres aren't a fair fight!

What's James up to these days?

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 22:30

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 22:30
Hi Geoff
Yes you are very lucky. James is still working away. He is not at Moomba any more. He was working at Blacktip in the Top End of the NT for 12 months on the new Gas plant for the north west shelf, but that was put on hold. He is now working, still with Fyfe Engineering, but based out of Roma in QLD. There is a very big gas pipeline in the construction process at Injune and they can not get enough tradespeople and he said there is nearly 3 years of work there, so he is spending more time in Queensland than is down hear in SA.

Great to hear from you again.


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Reply By: Member - Timbo - Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 15:45

Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 15:45
Geoff, you should rotate your tyres because the front (steering) tyres tend to wear more on the shoulders while the rear (driving) tyres (at least on a rear wheel drive or part-time 4WD) tend to wear more in the middle or the crown. If you rotate them, you even out this wear across the tread.

If you don't rotate them, you could have to replace your tyres earlier as the front ones will have worn (illegal) shoulders before the crown is worn, vice-versa for the rear tyres.

The difference is even more profound on a front wheel drive car where the front tyres do all the steering, driving and most of braking while the rear tyres just trail along taking it easy!

Including the spare(s) in the rotation will prevent them perishing (particularly if they are rear mounted and exposed to the sun) before you have a chance to wear them down.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 19:00

Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 19:00
Hi Tmbo,
12 months or so after I purchased my 80, which had new tyres fitted as part of the sale, before I had rotated them, I measured the depth of the tread on all four tyres.
Using a piece of aluminum in the tread, & a hack saw blade to cut the depth, I found that the rear tyres had 2mm less tread than the front.
Even though my vehicle is constant 4WD I believe the difference is because the power is still put down through the rear tyres, especially when towing, as my old girl does a lot of the time.
And your also right about the steer tyres wearing more on the outside of the tread.
If you can rotate all of your tyres it can only prolong their life.


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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 16:33

Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 16:33
Geoff
How many people can rotate with 2 spares like you can and get 2 spares to the front so thats a bit lop sided isnt it although the principal is correct.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:32

Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:32
Shouldn't you be getting moderated somewhere else?

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Follow Up By: RV Powerstream P/L - Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 13:11

Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 13:11
Dont you talk you swore at me and although it may have been appropriate to do so it was wrong.
How do you know you didnt hurt my feelings or was that what you was trying to do.
Sorry you didnt.
BTW been off the tar lately in your 6 wheeled shopping trolley.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 13:40

Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 13:40
Yep, used it to back the box trailer across the footpath just 4 months ago!
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Follow Up By: RV Powerstream P/L - Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 20:31

Wednesday, Jan 27, 2010 at 20:31
Gee Geoff that was a feat in itself anywhere getting a box trailer across a foot path it must have been a skinny trailer and to top it off it was in a short land in the outback Hunter Valley.
I apologise for questioning your driving capabilities and your off road nouse.
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 20:35

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 20:35
Hi Again Geoff,
Another example of why it pays to 'rotating tyres' is you get to have a good look at whats doing underneath.
Wednesday night the old girl was due for a Tyre rotation. First of all, I notice the backs are wearing overall a little more then the front set. No biggy, I've been towing the horse float a bit lately as well as the camper and my work trailer. I also notice the front pads have worn down to the metal arm indicator. No problem, I pickup a front set up and replace them. An easy job to do. I however notice a bubble in the flexible hose that runs down to the caliper
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An easy fix, But things could of been a lot worst. Just imagine if I was towing the camper or even just trying to stop at a round about.
It pays to do your own maintenance not matter how small it is.
It's just not about tyres, it about knowing your vehicle because you do get under it and get dirty.
A very good thread about being vigilante Geoff
Happy travels Mate.

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