How is the reliability of the HZJ76/78 Toyota Landcruiser?

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 01:50
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Hi,

I'm from Denmark, Europe and I'm strongly considering buying myself a brand new HZJ76 (wagon) or a HZJ78 (troop carrier). These vehicles are not imported to Denmark so I will rely on a grey import via England.

I got interested in the HZJ models after my recent trip to Africa where they were only used by UN personell. They really looked rock solid and that appealed to me. Summer 2007 i did the perimeter of Australia on a pushbike and a saw a lot of people driving the troop carriers (HZJ78) and of course I saw a lot of HZJ79 (pickups).

Since I want a brand new model it will be the one which has gotten a facelift and not the older ones with circular head lights. Like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yafysce

As far as I know, in Australia only the V8 Diesel engine is offered, but the one I'm looking for is the 1HZ Engine (4.2 Litre naturally aspirated Diesel).

Can someone elaborate on the reliability of these new HZJs? Were they better back then with the circular head light ... has quality dropped? I thought they were the BEST, beating all other vehicles, but then I read somewhere that around year 2000 they had gear box problems. For me it is of utmost importance to get a vehicle which will last 500000 kms without major repairs (such as replacing gear boxes).

I would be really happy to receive some more information ... maybe there is a forum only for HZJs?

Regards, Lucas Jensen
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Reply By: Member - Nathan & Lyndsey (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 02:52

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 02:52
Hi Lucas.

There is a forum for Landcruisers which is "www.lcool.org".
You will get plenty of information on that site. Good luck.

Lyndsey
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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 03:44

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 03:44
hmmm seeing as the beast you speak of isnt avaliable here I have to guess a bit

if the new cruiser you speak of running the old 1HZ also runs the same gearbox as the 1HZ used to run before being discontinued here then yes it wasnt the strongest box in the toyota parts bin - that stronger box was used in the petrol and turbo diesal models and now in the diesal v8s

Still guessing but i assume the 1HZ would be the same as in the previos model. I cant see they woukld have changed it seeing as it wouldnt be in any of there plans for further development
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Reply By: Peterbilt - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 06:05

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 06:05
Lucas.
try the Australian Troopie forum on Yahoo: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/troopyoz/

Its members should be able to provide you with most information you require.

Peter
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Reply By: bikemaniac - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 09:01

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 09:01
Thanks for your answers so far.

Lucas
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 15:14

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 15:14
Lucas,

Like some of the others here, I can only give general advice as we don't get this variant in Australia with the 1HZ.

It would be helpful to know what you want to do with the car, ie towing duties, anticipated load weights and the type of terrain that you might want to traverse as these things definately infulence whether this car may be suitable for your needs.

With reference to the 1HZ, it is a great motor in my humble opinion and given your requirement of going for 500,000km without trouble, it will do it failrly easily, provided that you keep clean oil and fuel up to it and use good quality oil and fuel filters. That being said, this engine is no powerhouse. It will comfortably cruise on 100kph on the flat, may lose some speed going up reasonable inclines, but is at home crawling around the bush in low gears. It has great engine braking and plety of torque for this purpose. If, however you just have to have 200kw and be able to overtake a Porsche on the freeway with a 3 ton caravan, I would look elsewhere. The 1 HZ can be fitted with an after market turbo charger but this WILL reduce the longevity of the engine (though it may well still do 300,000km if done properly and looked after impecibly). I have chosen NOT to go down this path due to the high cost of turbocharging (including intercooling, fuel system overhaul, boost compensator, exhaust etc...). For the money this costs, I could do an engine swap to something that would ultimately be more reliable and more powerful anyway.

In relation to the gearbox, I'm not too sure exactly what is in the HZJ76, but I would assume it to be the R151 box which is somewhat lighter in construction than the H151 fitted to the V8 turbos and petrol series. It is however a nicer box to live with, shifts nicely once you find the right grade and brand of oil and will last a long time if treated well. Again if you are to tow heavy loads, this will place more strain on the box and may reduce it's longevity.

Personally, I lust for just a little more power than the 1HZ provides, given I tow a camper or tour with quite heavy loads, but it still gets there in the end and I feel I have the reliability to compensate for the lack of power.

Good luck with your decision.

Cheers,

Mark
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Follow Up By: bikemaniac - Thursday, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:18

Thursday, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:18
Mainly I will not use it for towing and offroading but just as a normal vehicle. I do not do many kms every year but I just want to feel confident in the car knowing that everything can be fixed by myself. Some would say it is overkill, but this is how I want it :-)

Lucas
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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 23:00

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010 at 23:00
Hi Lucas,You might even be interested in a low klm HDJ78. This model had the turboed 1HD FTE 24 valve 6 cyl with the stronger H150 gearbox,same one as the V8 uses.
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Follow Up By: bikemaniac - Thursday, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:16

Thursday, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:16
I'm not interested in any turbo engines at all.

Lucas
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