Trailer Wiring Diagrams Feedback

I would like to point out a fault in your 7 pin round plug/socket,
2 is for aux power to the van, not for reversing as you suggest.
This applies to most vans that do not have breakaway braking reversing camera's etc, it will also charge up the vans battery whilst on the move.
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Reply By: Duncanm - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 08:10

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 08:10
Have alook hereplugs

Duncan
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:30

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:30
l would take that site to task as well Dunc as it has electric brakes on Pin 7

when it is accepted practice here is it is always PIN 5 as per here

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Reply By: olcoolone - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:11

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:11
2 is a caravan thing, really they should not be trying to charge a battery in the caravan through a trailer plug.

I think it comes about by the caravan manufactures being to slack and trying to make their price as cheap as possible.

All aux power in an ideal world should through an Anderson plug.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:22

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:22
You are not entirely correct as it can and is used for either.

My cars towing loom has reverse lights on pin 2.

The wiring as already said is far to light for battery charging any way

Try charging two 100ah batteries via a 4.8mm wire.

I have 6 B&S for a charging wire.

Has nothing to do with breakaway brakes as they arent powered from the car for a start, but from an small battery in the van

Cameras also use different wiring and can be powered from within the van and ony have a video connection to the car.

Think a bit more research might be in order.

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Follow Up By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:07

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:07
Graham, "Think a bit more research might be in order."

I think it's about time Australian Standards stepped in!

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Allan

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:18

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:18
Dont see that they need to It is quite plain in the diagrams I posted and is

generally accepted that Pin 2 is used by the Caravan industry for AUX for

cheapness reasons.

Most vans dont have reversing lights so doesnt matter.

However the wiring is far too light for what its used for..

My van had a 12 pin plug on it but I prefer the larger 7 pin as it gives much larger contact areas for the pins

I think the poster may have been actually trying to post feedback to an

subject in the "Articles "section but unfortunately revealed a lack of knowledge

in the forum.
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Follow Up By: dbish - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 12:58

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 12:58
I find pin 2 is used to keep the small battery charged that powers the breakaway brake system & the wiring is capable of doing this as the battery is usualy only 7Ah 12V. Daryl
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Follow Up By: Dazza - Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 09:44

Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 09:44
This thread raised a number of valid points about the use of pin #2.
When the cost cutting approaches of the caravan/trailer industry and car manuafacturers/dealers clash the results can be "interesting".
I have a Toyota Prado with 7-pin round wired by the dealer with reversing light on pin #2. I purchased a horse float with brerak-away braking system for whcih the manuafacturer used pin #2 for the battery charge pin.

Clearly some modification was going to required unless the battery was only charging when in reverse! ;-)

It gets worse... it appears that if the Toyota senses +12V on the Reversing lead when it's not in reverse gear, then the engine management computer figures that there is a major problem with the auto trans and goes into "limp home" operation remaining in a low gear only for you to get to the nearest Toyoata service centre.

Personally I kept pin #2 for reversing and wired an Anderson plug for the battery charging.
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