Camping/Fishing Knives
Submitted: Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 18:36
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Hairy (NT)
Im thinking about buying a couple of new knives and as we are about to move to the coast one of them will be a filleting knife.
Im interested to here from anyone who has had anything to do with Kyocera ceramic knives.
Good or bad stories would be appreciated.
Cheers
Hairy
Reply By: skulldug - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:20
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:20
Hi Hairy,
I did some research recently to replace my camping knife and also look for a good filleting knife. I came across a bit on the web about ceramic knives. They are supposed to be the sharpest you can get but they seem to be either ceremonial or surgical in nature. I would also guess that being ceramic, they would not flex which would make the unsuitable for filleting.
I ended up having some knives sent from the US (Buck Knives) when the Aussie dollar was buying 94 cents US. The filleting knife is the best I have ever owned and it cost me $40 AUD after postage.
Hope you unearth some first hand info about the ceramic ones.
Cheers
Skull
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:28
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:28
Gday Skull,
According to the you tube add, once they are fired they aren't any more brittle than hardened steel knives....dont know about flex though.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:29
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:29
Hairy, have to agree with you
I saw a Nat Geo (I think) programme on TV a while back called " How do they make it?"
and the topic was ceramic knives - amazing how they were made and the MAIN recipient of such knives - Japanese sushi chefs - they were cutting the finist slivers of fish you will ever see - so are they suitable for fillieting?? - ABSOLUTELY
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:38
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:38
mmmmmmmm - 0n 2nd thought - perhaps not for filleting
I have just watched about 10 youtube videos and after having filleted more than my share of fish over the years - perhaps it isn't flexible enough - certainly has the sharpness but didn't see anything to show it's flexibility
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Reply By: Kim and Damn Dog - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:23
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:23
Gidday hairy
You’ll find Western knives are a lot different to Japanese brands. The blades of the latter are considerably lighter and have a different bevel in most cases. If you’re intending to use the Kyocera for general fishing then I think it would a good choice.
I tend to stick to Leatherman at the moment for a good all-round bush knife.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:29
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:29
Gday Kim,
I was thinking of a filleting knife and possible a bait knife....at least they wont rust.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:51
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 19:51
G`day Hairy,
They might be hard to find these days but look for one with " 440C " stamped on it.
440C is a grade of Surgical Stainless Steel.
It will keep a sharp edge and never rust.
Good luck,
Scrubby.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:57
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:57
Thanks Scrubby , Ill look into it
Cheers
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Reply By: Fiona & Paul - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:22
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:22
The boss has been into ceramics & pottery for donkeys years Hairy and she said the ceramic knives are very very fine and although she has never used one she assumes they would not be flexible.
Regards
Paul & Fiona
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:58
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:58
Its starting to sound a bit like that.
Cheers
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Reply By: Therifleman - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:50
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:50
G'Day Hairy.In reply to your query re knives.I have been in the meat trade for over 50 years & I would suggest for a filleting knife go to a butchers supplier & buy a Victorinox filleting knife.They sharpen up
well,very flexible blade & easy to clean plastic handle.I cant comment on ceramic blades as they are not used in the meat trade.The Victorinox knives would cost up to $25,possibly a little more from "King of Knives" 7 such shops.We buy the 6 inch Victorinox boning knives in lots of 6 for about $12 each.Compare these prices with ceramic knives etc. Cheers,Rifleman.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:00
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:00
Gday,
That's exactly what I've got at the moment....I thought Id buy another one for the boat and thought ceramic might be the go....maybe not though.
Cheers
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Reply By: SLick - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:14
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:14
G'day Hairy,
Check out the knife sets that the SSAA sell. I got the "fishermans pack" for a birthday persent. It has a boner, fillet, slicer & sharpening steel all in a roll for easy storage in the boat side pocket.
Cheers,
Slick
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Reply By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:29
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:29
What a great thread - thks Hairy.
I can't contribute re the ceramics because I've never heard of them. But at least I know now that they're out there.
But for the steel afficionadods --- I've used Wusthof for years but they're pricey. But they never seem to wear their profile down.
More recently, just for short trips away, I've been using Dick pro grip (about $25 from KofK I think) and they've been sensational as a cheapy. No trouble on big Spanish or 15kg WA Jewfish.
Cheers.
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Reply By: tonysmc - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:57
Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:57
Hairy,
I'm not sure if you are in
Darwin, if you are I am sure Alfreds has them. If you are not in
Darwin, maybe you could give them a ring and ask if they are flexible.
Cheers Tony.
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Reply By: Pete Mac - Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 16:55
Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 16:55
Ceramic knives are great in that they hold a fantastic edge for a long time...
A selection can be found here -
Ceramic Knives
But you cannot sharpen them yourself :(
I would recommend a commercial knife such as Victorinox, Swibo, Dexter Russell etc etc.
Here is a selection -
Dexter Russell
Let me know if you would like more info.
Pete
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 18:15
Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 18:15
Gday All,
Thanks for all of your replies,
I just got an email from a knife supplier and they advised not going near bones with the ceramic blades.
I think I might settle with a good quality stainless knife and wait till they have been around a bit longer.
Thanks for all your suggestions and advice.
Cheers
Hairy
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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Wednesday, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:28
Wednesday, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:28
Dexter Russell mate, by far the greatest. Get them from Everten Online for around $25 each. Awesome knives, at that price you cant go wrong.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Wednesday, Feb 10, 2010 at 18:11
Wednesday, Feb 10, 2010 at 18:11
Yeah...Ive heard that....Ill certainly have a look into them.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:26
Tuesday, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:26
G day Hairy
have a chat to a couple of "slaughts"...... they will set you right
Other than that ... how's things ?
we are all doing fine, here in Wonthaggi, except we are waiting for the unflux of Desalination workers, by the end of the month.. Expected 500 new people in the area... Good for business.. bad to get a parlking spot.
Cheers Mate ...
Bucky
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2010 at 23:10
Tuesday, Feb 09, 2010 at 23:10
Gday Bucky,
All's good here mate.......
Not far off heading West......2 or 4 weeks from selling we will be gone....cant wait.
Make sure you call in if you go West at some stage!
Cheers mate.
Hairy
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