Front Towbar Connection

Submitted: Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:28
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I have had a towhitch connection on the bull bar of my HJ60 for easy parking of caravan and boat. Now I have a Prado with airbags I have been told that I won't be doing that again.
Aware of the problem with airbags, I was going to locate a socket a la Hayman Reese on the chassis near the tie down hook.
If I can pull the vehicle out of a bog with the hook surely I could use the same location to use as a gentle push and pull towbar link?
Any thoughts?
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:53

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:53
As you have mentioned - it is a tie down point and NOT a recovery point ! Also have a look around for a crush zone and see if it is in front or behind the tie down point.

KK
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Reply By: GerryP - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:54

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:54
Hi bbuzz,

I have a 105 series with exactly that setup. I have airbags and have installed a hitch receiver between the chassis rails, attached to the recover hook mounting plates. I will stand corrected, but I cannot see any reason why this would interfere with the airbag operation - if anything, it would prevent the chassis distorting during heavy recovery (snatching) operations.

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Gerry
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Follow Up By: GerryP - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:57

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:57
Just to add to the above, my tie downs are now rated recovery points and all is mounted rear of the crush points where the bullbar is mounted.

Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 13:32

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 13:32
Hi GerryP "I have airbags and have installed a hitch receiver between the chassis rails" Home made or commercially purchased any chance of some piccy's

Cheers Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 13:43

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 13:43
Gerry P,

would love to see some piscs also mate!
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Follow Up By: bbuzz - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 21:08

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 21:08
Gerry,
Can I also second that request for a picture? Its a long way from the tie down to the front of the bullbar on the Prado and the tongue would have to be fairly long. As long as there is not too much flex it won't be a problem - I was thinking a flat reinforced bar with the 50mm socket sliding into the tow receiver with the original pin to locate the whole thing.
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Follow Up By: GerryP - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 22:30

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 22:30
Hi all,

Just went out and took a couple of pics as requested. It's a home made job and is also supported at the rear with a bolt to the cross-member. The force at this point will be in an upward direction with the van attached and will therefore counter the length of the bar to the front. It's all pretty sturdy and as has been noted elsewhere, you're only moving fairly slowly to position the van.

It certainly makes it easy to manoeuvre when you have a twisty, narrow driveway (like I have unfortunately).

Click for pic's

Cheers
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 22:34

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 22:34
Thanks Gerry
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Follow Up By: bbuzz - Saturday, Feb 13, 2010 at 09:05

Saturday, Feb 13, 2010 at 09:05
Gerry,
Thanks. A photo gives much more of an idea of where to start. I have found the front hitch to be of more use when offset on the left of the vehicle. This gives you a view down the side of the van/boat.
My Prado looks like yours underneath. I was going to take the hook off and mount it in that spot. Not sure of the effect that taking the sleeve to the front of the vehicle, height off the ground wise. Was thinking of having a longer gooseneck but the leverage effect may kill that plan.
Thanks for your input.
Cheers
Bill
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Reply By: Fab72 - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:50

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:50
Unless you're planning on towing with the front hitch at speeds above 40kmph, it's not going to be a problem.

The airbag SDM requires many parametres to be met before it will deploy the airbags. It looks for deceleration rates, yaw and of course vehicle speed. In Australia, most SDM's are programmed to only fire at speeds above 40kmph.

In the USA....it's lower. Some people over there still don't wear seat belts.
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Reply By: Member - Donks1 (NSW) - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 19:19

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 19:19
If you are worried about the air bags, when you are moving the boat/van this way, just don't use your seat belt. If the belt is not "buckled", the air bags will not deploy.

Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 22:31

Friday, Feb 12, 2010 at 22:31
Thanks Donks1
If thats the case I can start making that bracket for the front
I have seen hitches on ebay and they always stressed "not for air bag equiped cars"

Cheers Michael
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