Waeco Fridge- Secure tie Down

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:52
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Hi All,

I have built a fake floor in the back of my 2001 ravo Dual Cab. The floor ( a piece of 24mm MDF) is secured into a frame made out of 8mm steel strap, that is securely mounted in to the original seat belt mounting holes using high tensile seat belt mounting bolts.

My concern is with my waeco fridge. I am unable to use a fridge slide due to space restrictions, and wish to know if someone can comment on the following options I see myself having for secure mounting of the fridge onto the board/frame.

1. Rated caribeena's onto the waeco handles, connected by turnbuckles, into M10 eye shackes mounted in to the 8mm frame, with a 470kg ratchet strap looped through the handles and under the frame for an extra measure.

2. A 2000Kg ratchet strap looped under the frame and conected to the waeco handles, with slight pressure applied to secure the fridge, but not so mush as to break/disfigure the handles.


Please feel free to comment, or provide input, I am concerned about this and dont want to get it wrong.

Regards

Dane
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Reply By: wicket - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:26

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:26
waeco make a tie down kit

http://www.waeco.com.au/products4.asp?id=419&catId=57&subCatId=60&subCatId2=71
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Reply By: silver bravo - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:32

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:32
thanks for that. I rang waeco and they stated that it is not crash worthy, and shouldnt be depended on s such. Whilst I was confused abou this, I rang again and spoke to somoeone else at waeco, and they mentioned same.

Any other ideas?
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:48

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:48
I use these with my Engel.....

ROPE RATCHET

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:53

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:53
Forgot to mention, I used the next size up & didn't use the bottom hook, I also just hooked the ratchet hook into the Engel handle.
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Reply By: kingswoodwagon - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:54

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:54
I snapped a handle off my waeco tying it down to my floor. There wasn't much strength there.
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Reply By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 13:29

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 13:29
Dane
Unfortunately the handles are only designed as pick up points. They are not designed to be used as tie down points and WILL break giving you a nice lethal projectile flying around in the event of a rollover. All you can do is place your straps over the lid and tie it down that way. A pain because you have to loosen them off to open it every time, but the only safe way for you. Probably your ratchet strap is the way to go, provided you make the whole thing secure. With a bit of practice and the ratchet in the right place you can probably release and retighten in a few seconds.

teege
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Follow Up By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 13:38

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 13:38
Dane
BTW I would be making sure that there was plenty of waterproofing between the Waeco and the MDF. Any spillage out of the fridge, or condensation dripping onto the MDF will very quickly rot it and make it useless. I made my first false floor out of MDF and had to replace it after 2 years for that very reason. I'm now using 19mm marine ply.

teege
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Follow Up By: silver bravo - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 15:44

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 15:44
thanks, the mdf will be coated in spray on sound deadening paint, which is waterproof.

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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 14:01

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 14:01
Hi Dane,

I use the Engel SlideLok system. It securely holds the fridge in place, as well as being a quick release system without the need for ropes or straps. I have found it to be very good and you may be able to adapt it to fir a Waeco, only need to get the feet in the right place (have seen it used on Space Cases and other storage boxes.
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Reply By: Member - David C1 (VIC) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 14:57

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 14:57
Hi sb, Im not familiar with waecos but on the engel you could take the feet screws out and replace them with longer screws, screwing them through the board and all. Maybe you could do this on a separate board and mount this to your false floor. Hope this helps...
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Reply By: dirttracker - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 15:26

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 15:26
I would suggest that you have a look at making up some metal straps that can be positioned behind the handle securing points. You would have to extend the bolts/screws and then fit the handles again. I have seen this method on an Engel. However, I have only seen the Waeco secured by straps from a base to the handles. Are they all wrong?

Martin
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Reply By: silver bravo - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 15:42

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 15:42
Hi all,

Thanks for all you input.


I have purchased the fridge mounting kit I first mentioned, and will sue it as a base for lcoation the fridge.

I think I will fabricate some steel brackets brakects to fit in behind the original handles, with extendsed bolts and mount these to the steel fake floor frame with turnbuckles.

I'll also get the big 2000kg strap and go over the top of the fridge.

Cheers for you help.

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Reply By: Gramps - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 17:17

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 17:17
Dane,

Farrrrrrrrrrr out. This seems to be turning into a major engineering effort. I secured my Waeco ( 40lt ) direct onto the back seat of a Hilux Extracab. Put two U-bolts into the bulkhead underneath the seat and used the seat belt anchor points and a set of straps from Just Straps - voile !

This arrangement has worked for the last 5 years over some pretty bad corrugations etc without a problem.

Where are you going that you need this sort of effort ?

Regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 18:50

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 18:50
Gramps
how do you attach the straps to the fridge? Are they over the top, or through the toy handles? I don't think Dane's problem is where to attach the straps to the vehicle, but how to secure the fridge with them.

teege
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Follow Up By: Member - TonBon (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 19:11

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 19:11
Gramps and Silver Bravo, i would be very interested in seeing some photo's of your setups as i am going to be doing the exact same thing in my dual cab. Was considering pulling the rear seats out, false floor with fridge and drawer setup. Reading that i will have to get an engineers certificate now though is giving me second thoughts. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Gramps - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 22:05

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 22:05
Teege,

They are through the handles. I notice you and Kingswoodwagon suspect or have had problems with the handles but I have'nt in nearly 100k kilometres. There may be a difference between the handles today and the ones on my fridge
. The fridge sits on the backseat in it's cover, quite secure.

TonBon,

Will try to get some pics together this week.

Regards

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Follow Up By: Gramps - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:41

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:41
TonBon,

Sorry about the delay with the pics. I completely forgot about it until now.



U-bolts into bulkhead underneath seat. Straps attached.



Closer pic of U-bolt connect



Strap through seat belt anchor



End view straps connected and tightened



Front view. All connected and secure


Regards
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Follow Up By: Member - TonBon (NSW) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:58

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:58
Ahh good stuf, appreciate it mate. Gives me a couple of good ideas. Happy travelling.
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Reply By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 18:44

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 18:44
Check these. Qantas have lengths of tie down points that can be bolted to a floor and then plug in metal o rings can be moved anywhere you want them along the length so that you can tie dwn to them. Very strong and adjustable. Qantas use them for mounting seats to the floor so that seats can be repositioned. Also used as adjustable tie down points in the cargo bays of planes. Just unplug the tie down points and your floor is virtually flat again. You can get this stuff from TJM 4WD shops for about $35.00 a metre including two of the tie down points. You can cut the lengths up into whatever lengths suit you. I have a number of these strips at different points around the floor of my 60 series and it is a very strong, versatile arrangement that lets me tie down pretty well anything I want. This has included a 50 litre Waeco and 60 litre water botlles. Nothing tied dwon to them broke or moved while airborne over the top of Simpson dunes.TJM however don't seem to know that these were designed for Qantas, so I don't know where they get theirs. I got mine through a Qantas engineer, then saw them at TJM.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 19:06

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 19:06
Well on my trip in a Croozer I put two cargo barriers in one behind the front seat and one behind where the rear seat would have been.

Put a floor in bolted to the front cargo barrier which was attached to the seat fixing holes.

I put some rubber matting and glued it to the floor Chucked the fridge and a washing machine in and never tied anything down.

Have done 50,000k with them like that..

I wasnt upside down any time of course.

Just remember if you take all but your front seats out you should go to an engineer and get a blue plate as by doing so you alter the insurance category of the car. We did it cost $60.

Now have to get another one when we put them back.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 19:07

Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 19:07
Ignore the bit about the seats I thought you meant a Rav4.


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