100s LC standard for trowing

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I'm sure this is probably going over old ground but I'm in a bit of a bind looking for a good long distance tow vehicle that can handle a heavy van and rough tracks. I'm not going to take the van 4wding but I'd like to get a vehicle that can handle itself in the bush (The current X-Trail doesn't quite cut it) I recently drove a 100s LC standard several hundred ks in the kimberly and was impressed by how stable the heavy body was over some pretty shocking corrugations. I'm not sure how the HZ105 motor would handle towing a big van though? Also, with a 4 tonne rig I'd be pretty keen for ABS brakes. Unfortunately a TD is probably out of my budget as I'm not keen to get something with over 100Ks. A GU Patrol might suit but again I've heard that the 3.0L is a bit underdone. The new Pajero looks like it has a pretty good engine but not sure how the lighter body would go on the rough tracks and the budget might not stretch that far anyway. The range of dual cab utes also seem good value for money and the even the new challenger might be worth a look. Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Reply By: unners - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 00:28

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 00:28
read " towing"!
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Reply By: Dave(NSW) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 00:45

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 00:45
If you tell us how heavy the van is then people can give you a better idea.
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Follow Up By: unners - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 00:49

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 00:49
Haven't bought it yet but probably looking around the 2.5t mark.
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Follow Up By: cowpat - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 05:50

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 05:50
The HZJ105 is a tad sluggish with even a light dirt bike trailer on the highway, at least on anything even mildly resembling a hill. I'd say a 2.5 tonne trailer might test your patience. You might want to reconsider paying extra for the TD, or buying one with more mileage. Casper
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Reply By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 07:49

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 07:49
You mention 4 tonne rig...??? What is 4 tonne, the van or the combination..?? If the van is 4 tonne you cannot tow it with any Landcruiser. The X Trail wouldn't even move it...!!

All the later LC's have ABS so no worries there but if your purchase budget is limited then I would seriously consider a later V8 petrol LC100. Running costs are high but purchase price is much lower and plenty to choose from. Or buy the standard diesel and put an aftermarket turbo on it when funds permit.

But..., towing limit is 3500kg with tow ball downforce 350kg. If you tow 4 T then you need a F250 or Chev Silverado. I personally don't know of any Aussie van that weighs 4T (ATM) though.

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Follow Up By: unners - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 20:17

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 20:17
Thanks Don,

I was referring to 4 tonne plus combined.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:56

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:56
The vehicle metioned was "100s LC standard".

There is no 100 series standard, the standard is the 105 series poverty pack, solid front axle, vinyl everything (unless you had the cloth seat option..which then excluded the option of factory lockers), 1 HZ N/A diesel engine (96kw) and NO ABS braking.

The GXL had the perol engine option, and had ABS braking. Bare they (105)are about a shade under 2500 kg, fit some extras and you start to get to 3 tonne.

A good/decent tow vehicle is the 100 series 1HDFTE factory turbo, IFS front axle/suspension.
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Reply By: rayfish - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 20:49

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 20:49
hi l have a 100 series 105 poverty pack towing a 2.5 ton van.most of my towing is from geelong to karumba in the gulf and back 5 months later.as we all know you do not tow with a toyota in 5th gear so l sit in 4th at 80 ks plodding along hardly do a gear change and enjoy the trip.l did have a f150 on duel fuel towed quicker but on gas the trip cost $400 more each way and had to un hook at many a servo to get in.l paid $18,000 for a 2003 with 135000 ks a bit rough ex rental but a long way from 50 to 60 grand for a turbo gxl
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Reply By: Von Helga - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 21:19

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 21:19
Rayfish,
I've seen this stuff about 5th gear towing.
Where did you take your advice on it from?
I can't find a definitive answer on whether we should or should not.
I tow my camper and drive it like any 5 speed car.
I use 5th where appropriate, I don't let the engine labour and I am on my second 105 with no problems.
I try and keep the road speed up as much as possible to keep the km's ticking by.
Cheers
Trevor
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Follow Up By: rayfish - Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 22:19

Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 22:19
hi von in the caravan that we stay in there would be at least 30 100 series all towing big vans like l am.some of those have had serious damage to the 5th gear.a mechanic explained that the 5th gear is only held in place with a circlip that cannot handle the pressure of towing such large weights.l take the view better safe than sorry.it was only a few years ago we did not have 5th gear which is an over drive and we towed all over australia without a problem.l also find towing in 4th means less gear changes and less labouring and overall l dont use anymore fuel than when l did do my first trip in the tojo useing 5th.l dont know which is right it comes down to what works for you and makes you comfortable thanks
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Reply By: unners - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 23:22

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 23:22
Thanks guys,

It seems that there are plenty of options out there.
I'm certainly having a good time comparing and one thing is becoming clear. For every pro threre is a con for just about every model. Your ecperiences and advice are most usefull
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