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Submitted: Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 15:54
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Not long back I fitted a set of Bendix 4wd disc pads to the old Patrol. The wear rate is good, but they started to sound like they are metal to metal. Groaning and grinding when I apply the brakes softly and near stopping. I just wondered if any others had had this problem?
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Reply By: Dave B ( BHQ NSW) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 16:32

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 16:32
I wonder how hard the pad material is Murray. It sounds to me like the material is quite hard, hence the good wear.
You might notice a lot of the european cars have a lot of brake dust on their mag wheels, they use a softer material.
Did you have a choice of types of pad material?

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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 16:47

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 16:47
Gday Dave
I suppose i could ask for a different material, but these were the new all singing all dancing pads from Bendix with the titanium grinding edge so the bedding in period is almost nill.

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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 16:49

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 16:49
By the way. I have no complaints about them, only asking about the noise.
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Reply By: kiwicol1 - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 17:35

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 17:35
I have a 92 patrol and had problems with bendex pads. They would gather the wear dust and melt it all together like a stone and bed it self in the pad. Then they wore grooves in the rotor. Took the vehicle back to brake fitter and he tried telling me a stone had worked its way into the pad. I figureed that wasnt possible due to the closeness of the pads to rotor.

I contacted bendex, and after a bit of back wards and forwards, they admitted they had a problem with nissan original rotors doing this to their pads. They ended up replacing pads and giving me 2 new rotors. Was very pleased with bendex and their handling of the issue.

Made me wonder how many other people had been caught like this beleiving they had picked up a stone in the pad.

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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:57

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:57
I had that same problem some years ago with Bendix pads. Very loud scraping noises and when I took the thing apart a large lump of metal type substance was embedded in the pad.
The retailer picked it out and went to throw it away saying it was "road debris" but I wasn't having that and stopped him.
I don't know if it was something from the manufacturing process or accumulated crap from braking, but it certainly wasn't a stone.
Bendix bought a new rotor and exchanged the pads from memory.
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Reply By: CraigB - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:01

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:01
I've just fitted the Bendix 4wd pads to my LC100. I have noticed especially first thing in the morning when they are stone cold that braking is extremely poor. Once they have warmed up a little they great, but backing out of the garage and down the driveway is a little disconcerting. Also they do generate a lot more heat than the factory originals.
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Follow Up By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 27, 2010 at 16:25

Saturday, Feb 27, 2010 at 16:25
Craig,
I have Bendix pads in my 75 series troopy and experience the same thing. I have found that if you do a short hard brake to warm them up then all is good.

I run standard Toyota pads in the LC100 and probably stick with them as they give good performance and little cold start problems.

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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:03

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:03
Run these in our cruiser and cannot fault.Good wear, braking is good and no noise like you mention.
Maybe worth dropping the pads out to check if something like a rock is trapped in the caliper or even a wear indicator spring has become dislodged.
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:09

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:09
Gday Nic
I have done that numerous times and found nothing. I will look for the lumps in the pads next time .
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:34

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:34
When I wash the car always stick the hose in and give the brakes a rough hose.
Gets the dust and dirt out and they don't squeak as much.
Using Bendix pads too, but no problems at all.
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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 21:25

Friday, Feb 26, 2010 at 21:25
Gday Chasps
I think i might take them out again (they have been out three times already) and put them on the surface grinder.
Thanks for the reply's .
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