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Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 20:40
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Jedo_03
the amps pull on a battery when connected to an inverter..??
Say you have a f/c 100Ah batt connected to a 300W invertor connected to a 240v 100W light bulb.
In one hour - how many amps will be pulled from the battery?
How do you calculate this..??
Jedo
Reply By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 20:59
Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 20:59
The load is 100W.
Amps = watts / volts so
Amps - 100/12.8 = 7.8Amps.
Plus add 15% for ineffeciency = 8.5A
So in one Hour you will have used 8.5 Amp Hours.
Im other words get LED or Flouros, you will have only used about 1 - 1.5 Amp hours for similar light.
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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 21:05
Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 21:05
For a fully charged battery, we'll assume 13v.
The capacity of the inverter (300w) doesn't really come into the calculation, only the load.
If the inverter was 100% efficient in conversion, then the input watts would be the same as the output watts.
Therefore, with Amps=Watts/Volts,
Amps = 100/13
= 7.79A
so if you're running it for an hour, you'll have used 7.79 Amp-Hours.
But the real inverter conversion efficiency is 80-90%, so let's assume 80%; the draw will be
7.79/0.8 = 9.6 amps.
Also, the inverter has a fixed power consumption regardless of the throughput (when you have no output load, there will be some current draw from the battery), so max efficiency is usually at max power; it will be a bit less efficient at small load current.
Not sure why you'd run a 100w bulb from an inverter tho :-)
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:30
Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:30
Gerry,
Yes, the inverter "capacity" does come into the equasion :)
Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 21:23
Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 21:23
As above, but best way is to measure it with an ammeter.
Out of interest, my 300Watt inverter pulls 110 milliamps when idle (connected with no load).
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Reply By: Member - Cantiva Clay (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 23:43
Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 at 23:43
Agree with Phil the only real
check is with an ammeter and voltmeter.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cantiva Clay (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 00:07
Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 00:07
I should be a bit more helpful, Jaycar have a range of meters, you can pick up a basic multimeter for $10 and a very usable one for $30, interestingly there is not much improvement in accuracy until you buy the $400 job! (The $30 is fine for auto use) if measuring current more than 10a you will really need one of their shunts though.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 00:20
Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 00:20
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All you need is someone to give some hints on their use (provided you don't know yourself)
Otherwise on the calculation front others have supplied some great information.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 06:54
Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 06:54
You gotta put it in context tough.
1 x 100w light bulb 85 cents
1 x cheap inverter $$50.00
1 X multimeter $140.00
You could buy a lot of 12v flouro's or LED's that would use less power for that.
:-)
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Reply By: B1B2 - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 07:22
Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 07:22
G'day Jedo,
I am sure you are not planning on running a 100w light, it is the calculation of power consumption you are after.
I use a clamp dc amp tester, I think Dick Smith or Jcar had them for around $100, they used to be closer to $300.
It has a range of 400A dc. and you put the clamp around one wire.
This is useful for checking say a laptop computer power consumption, as it is variable depending how flat the batteries are. The dell laptop I use pulls 12A dc when the battery is low. This is handy to know when your inverter has a 10A fuse and you dont expect it to use that amount.
It has a lot more applications on your vehicle, you can
check the charging rate of your alternator without disconnecting anything.
Cheers,
Bill
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:08
Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:08
Just make sure you get a DC/AC clamp ammeter. The cheap clamp meters only read AC, and will be of no use for your purpose.
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Reply By: Jedo_03 - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 18:43
Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 18:43
Thanks all
So if I'm running 3 x 100W light bulbs I just multiply by 3...
It was the calculation I was after.
Jedo
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