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Just starting to have a ponder over next years fishing trip to NT & would welcome comment from those that have stayed/fished areas such as King Ash Bay,
Lorella Springs, Limmen Bight, Roper River etc. Will have two boats capable of
river & offshore travel, & plan to fish the runoff in April/May. Has anyone been into the Rosie River Fishing Camp ?. Will have a party of nine & about 3 weeks
to fish. Yep, sounds like heaven to me too........oldbaz.
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 14:32

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 14:32
G'day Oldbaz,

Have a look at some of Norm C's responses on the subject. He is not on line at the moment but spends his downtime at King Ash. Some info in his blog to get you started.

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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 15:46

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 15:46
Thanks for that link. Great reading. I shall follow their doings with interest.
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 15:49

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 15:49
Norm may well log in and give more detail if the fish aren't biting!
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Follow Up By: guy007 - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 19:03

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 19:03
Hi all,
Last fished King Ash when it was Black Rocks Landing back in 1968. Left the Landy there all by its self and travelled down river in 12ft Brooker Tinnie and spent 3 weeks fishing the islands with base camp at White islet. Gunner Berkeris helped us find the good spots and we had a ball on Light tackle Barra, Queenfish, Threadfin and Mangrove Jack. The odd shark and groper provided excitement. Not too many crocs in those days, they were almost shot out. Good news is we will be back in May for a re-enactment. Travelling a little more upmarket than a short wheel base soft top Landrover. No sealed roads then . Across the Top was a real adventure. We ate dust but were inspired by Keith Adams!!!
Could only drink rum and coffee as had no refrigeration. One Sunday we picked up our cold beer that we had left in the coolroom at Borroloola and drove to Bing Bong. A winding dirt road through the swamps. When we got there the station owner was not too pleased as he did not like visitors and we had driven over his airstrip. On the return we decided to set a World Land Speed Record from Bing Bong to Borroloola. On rounding a bend we encountered a very large buffalo in the middle of the track and had to take to the scrub ending up in a seemingly bottomless morass. 4 hours later we were on our way considerably more sober.Believe that road now is almost an expressway!
If only I was a member I could show you the photos.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 19:27

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 19:27

what's stopping you from parting with a few $$ and becoming a member ??
I for one woul love to see photos of the area

Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 16:57

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 16:57
I just got the good oil from a bloke who knows , he said the run off is happening now and you should be up here now or you'll miss it all. there'll no fish on your dish.

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Reply By: Member - lyndon NT - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 17:14

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 17:14
G’day Oldbaz

King Ash is good if you have a larger boat and want a mixture of river and offshore(beware of the Rocks). The camp ground is huge with very little shade, not our favourite place but have friends who love it. The Rosie is very interesting but is more like a large creek. See photo’s in my profile, very few people will be able to or have a trailer that can transverse this track, a roof topper would be ideal. The creek/river is very shallow, it is however only a short run to the salt, maybe 10 km’s? This needs to be done taking into account the tides(beware of the Rocks). It is seriously remote and would suggest only experienced people will good comm’s consider it, we will probably go back one day. As for the Roper, well we just love it and are off down there for 2 weeks fishing shortly. It is very large and pretty, beware of the Rocks. Fortunately with the Roper there is more water than rocks ? The mouth is not a nice place to camp. Once the runoff has finished(usually March) it’s mostly live bait fishing using prawns(cheribin) that you catch in opera house pots. Have not fished Limmen but would like to one day, is very shallow I have heard. With a small Tinnie, Rivers like the Towns can also be fished.
If I can answer any other questions feel free to drop me a line.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 17:43

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 17:43
G'day Lyndon, thanks for that info. The Rosie track looks a tad tough. We dont want to tow boats 3000k just to damage within sight of the water. We would like to spend maybe a week at 3 different spots on the eastern side this trip, &
hopefully a similar trip later to maybe Mary,Daly & Victoria rivers. Fished the
Finnis for 10 days this time last year...excellent results, but would like to check out
different places this time. Where is the best camping on the Roper about April May ? Dont really need much in the way of facilities. Is gear security an issue?
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 23:59

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 23:59
Sounds like King Ash would suit, all sorts of fishing available. With the Roper, upstream is Barra only, closer to the mouth you will get variety. We camp at Roper Barcamp ground”. Camping is cheap and it has toilets, showers and running river water, shade and is usually not to crowded. This is barra fishing only, you can run downstream from here but it’s a LONG way to the mouth. It is possible to fish upstream from the Bar but you need to get over 2 rock bars, so really only viable for small boats, you also need to get in the water twice and I know for a fact that a 16 foot black lizard lives around there! ? down stream from the bar there are some rocks in the first few km’s it then opens up to a big river with a clear run for many miles(you will eventually get to more rocks and sand bars though). You can also fish the Wilton and Hodgson rivers which are a short run down from the bar, BEWARE, both these rivers have a lot of rocks! You can also camp at a place called Tomato Island which is about half way to the mouth I think, It is crowded and has no toilets(where everyone craps is a mystery I don’t wish to solve!)
We are in the process of educating ourselves about our GPS, I would like to make a map of at least part of the river one day as a guide for other travels. You have missed the runoff, it’s on now and only lasts a short time. Remember for the Roper live bait is the go.
If you would like more specifics about getting bait, where the rocks are(at least some of them ? )etc drop us a line. I hope to have some brag Photo’s from our trip in about a month!
Cheers Lyndon
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:31

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:31
Tomato island actually has a semi permanent population , communal fuel runs of ute and trailer full off 44s , water pumped from the river.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:40

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:40
Thanks again, Lyndon. It does appear KAB may suit us well. Will keep researching
Limmen Bight etc as alternatives. Appreciate your input....oldbaz.
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 18:00

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 18:00
The track into Lorrella Springs can be a challenge , Recon it was the worst 30 klm that we came across out of 10,000klm of dirt covered in 08 , great camp sites though.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 21:31

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 21:31
Into Lorella Springs is fine.
From Lorella Springs to the coast is about 60k which might be quite a different storey.

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:23

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:23
Peter , the reason I say the 30klm into the campground is /was the worst is that my trip diary shows that while we were there in Aug 08 I was asked and did 5 tire repairs in 3 days + 2 welding jobs , the w/end after we left there was to be a long distance m/cycle riders gathering at the campground , met some of the riders in Borroloola after the event , riders falling off on the 30 klm like nine pins , more tire damage and flats to count, 2 serious crashes and 1 m/cycle burnt all just on the 30 klm entrance track.
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 19:01

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 19:01
G'day Oldbaz, I see you have already been pointed to and read my Blog.

Lyndon is right that there is not a lot of shade in the powered camp ground. We camp down on the river bank and there are some good shaded areas down there. We look for the sun though as we have a heap of solar panels.

My Blog pretty much covers why we like KAB. Happy to try to provide any other info you might want. We will be arriving up there in a few days.

Another place I don't think has been mentioned is Manangoora on the Wearyan River. It is now aboriginal land, but the traditional owners allow camping on the river. Last year, I think their fee was $200, regardless of how long you stayed. It is a good spot, but no facilities. You have to go to Borroloola for fuel, supplies etc. Leonard (the traditional owner) would probably make a reasonable arrangement for a short stay. His number is 089 759910, but you might have to try several times before you get an answer.

If you make it to KAB, look us up. Ask at the office when you book in and they should know where we are camped.

Norm C
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:36

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:36
G'day Norm, I see you are a fan of KAB & rightly so. It looks to be the type of place we are looking for. Unfortunately our chance doesnt come till next year,
but I like to plan early, & will follow closely your reports of your current stay.
Will a gennie make us unwanted, or are there places we can camp & not disturb the peace ? cheers...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:53

Sunday, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:53
G'day again Oldbaz. Sorry about the delayed reply. We are now at KAB and the only way to get comms is with a very high (30 ft or so) antenna. Have now got that set up with a Yagi, so have reasonable signal.

It poured rain for 12 hours before we hit the dirt road into KAB, so that was a lot of fun.

As for generators, the camp area on the river bank is locally known as Gennie Flats. That probably gives you an idea. Everybody who camps there has a generator. Club rules say generators are permitted between 7.00 am and 10.00 pm, though most people get them off well before that. The only ones that upset people are the noisy ones. Most people have Hondas and they are tolerated pretty well.

We hope to hit the water for the first time tomorrow. I've got a bit of work to do on the boat first- new seats, battery, bilge pump and installing a water separating fuel filter.

Camping fees have gone up a bit this year. I think non members on Gennie Flats will be paying $75 per week (covers two people). But the facilities are also improving. There will hopefully be three relocatable amenities blocks (flushing toilets, solar hot water) on Gennie Flats this year (two last year). Possibly also a laundry down there!!! They get moved to high ground for the wet season and moved back when the major flood risk has abated.

Norm C

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