Prado recovery points

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 17:35
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Prado owners- are you taking your chances with the unrated tow points or are you fitting better ones. Are the TJM after market ones my only choice, or are ARB, terrain tamer etc an option.
Thanks, Tim
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 17:45

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 17:45
What model Prado???
90series are easy - the rated hooks bolt right onto the front chassis - just need at least 8.8 HT bolts with the correct metric thread (12x1.25 from memory).

120series: you have the two tow loops welded to the chassis - its a safe system if you routinely use an equaliser strap. The aftermarket recovery points (Outback Ideas is another brand) are strong, some say too strong because they are stronger than the chassis that they are mounted to. I'd still use an equaliser strap to make it safe for any recovery from the front.

Square hitch at the rear works well.
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Follow Up By: dirttracker - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 20:22

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 20:22
The majority of Pradopoint contributors are of the view that the original "tiedown" points are not recovery points. Rated points have to have a rating. A welded hoop cannot be rated. I wouldn't use them with or without an equaliser strap. Spend the money, be sure and put on Outback Ideas points, easy as... By the way, file off the edges and give them another coat of paint. The paint tends to fail at the edges.

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Reply By: getmethehelloutahere - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 17:47

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 17:47
sorry 2003 120 series
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Reply By: RobAck - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 18:36

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 18:36
TJM don't make recovery points for 120 Prado that I am aware of. They sell the Outback Ideas ones made in Melbourne and these are available almost anywhere there's a decent 4WD accessory shop. You can get them anywhere in Adelaide.

Do they work? Most certainly. We have our 120's fitted with them and I have had a 100 series with off-road camper trailer winching off one of them without penalty and we did need to act quite quickly so had no time for the nicieties of a bridle in that instance. Apart from that the vehicle is used constantly for training and tours so the front and rear recovery points probably get more work than most

The ones we use are easy to pick as they are red, come with hi-tensile bolts etc. Allow an hour to fit as you need to lift the radiator

Regards

RobA
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 19:23

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 19:23
Hi Tim
This is a good question. Like Phil has mentioned above, I always uses an equalising strap. Some stores that I have spoken to say never use the standard recovery points, while other stores have said OK. To be on the safe side, I have had a set of All Terrain rated points fitted. I also forgot to mention that my vehicle is also a 120 Series also. Below is a picture to show you what they look like.


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Reply By: Kim and Damn Dog - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 19:48

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 19:48
Gidday Tim

My last 120 Prado was the test bed for the Outback Ideas recovery points. They have now been transferred to the current Prado, and I can assure you, they are super strong.

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Kim
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 20:46

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 20:46
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Reply By: Kim and Damn Dog - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 21:35

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 21:35
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Reply By: getmethehelloutahere - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 22:15

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 22:15
Thanks folks. I think I will get hold of the outback points- not worth compromising on safety.
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Tim
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Reply By: bgreeni - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 13:19

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 13:19
A few months back I enquired with ARB about recovery points for my 120. Was told they no longer did recovery points as they were concerned about legalities of rating them.
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Follow Up By: baza - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 15:01

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 15:01
Which is a mighty fine point. The chassis we bolt these 'rated' recovery points to are not rated as far as I know. I um 'd and arr'd about my hilux's recovery points, ended up bolting some on, but still use an equalization strap to be safe.
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 17:43

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 17:43
Excellent point Baza ....

A shiny hook in a packet may have a rating value attached to it ...

But that rating is worthless if its not mounted in such a way to guarantee the rating.

Its a bit like orange cordial concentrate ... Once the water is added the cordial percentage is a lesser value of the whole.

( rated hook being the cordial - chassis / mounting bolts being the water .... for comparison )

A vehicle, the recovery equipment ... and the ground should be prepped for recovery so that the tow strain is minimal anyway .... as gazillion tonnage rated hooks are no more than false security IMHO.

Interesting point on another forum .... Is the big nylon strap some people use for snatching REALLY a snatch strap .... or did they buy/get sold ... a big non-elastic towstrap by mistake ??? ..... which might explain some of the torn off bullbars etc.
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Follow Up By: Kim and Damn Dog - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 17:55

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 17:55
Gidday

Go back to my post, and Stephen's photo further down. You won't find a stronger attachment point on the market (at least to my knowlege).

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: baza - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 20:29

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 20:29
yeh, have similar from allterrain4x4, massively strong, much stronger than the chassis I would think.
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Reply By: getmethehelloutahere - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 16:03

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 16:03
Have bought some outback recovery points, and an equaliser strap to be sure.
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Reply By: bks - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 19:27

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 19:27
I have a 90 series Prado and was concerned about the recovery points following comments I had heard. I went to opposite lock and asked to get rated ones fitted after they looked at them, I was told they were as good as the ones they could sell me so dont waste my money.

I left more confused so had another really good look at them and suspect that a previous owner may had replaced the original tie down hooks. But that is only a guess

How can I tell at this stage if they are rated? The look exactly the same as those I have seen in Car accessory shops. I dont want to buy a new set just because I'm not sure if they are rated.
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Follow Up By: PradOz - Friday, Mar 26, 2010 at 21:01

Friday, Mar 26, 2010 at 21:01
not sure how to tell what they are rated at, but to see if they are different to standard ones just get under a couple other 90 series. Thats what i did once in a shopping centre car park to check something on their bullbar. FWIW i had heard previously opposite to pradopoint opinion that the standard 90 series were rated for recovery. Was a few years back now so cant follow up on the source anymore. I recently had to chase toyota for some tech advice for a 90 series and was directed to the local dealership service centre. If they dont know an answer, they have a phone number they can ring to get the answer but you may have to push them to do it if you want them to double check their advice, cheers....


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