Is an ARB Air Locker best in the front diff. or rear diff ???
Submitted: Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 19:01
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Member - redust... (Riverina)
As said, which is best? or more useable in desert sands or
rock hopping?
Reply By: Gossy - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 19:31
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 19:31
being a LC I would put it in the rear.
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Reply By: NUTS! - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 19:38
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 19:38
Front or rear is really a personal choice, many will argue either way. I think 4wdAction did an article on it a while back and found that it depends a bit on what 4x4 you have. (read: does it have LSD and does it actually work)
That looks like a 60 series in your
Pic....even if it has LSD in the rear, it would be no better than an open diff, damn useless tojo LSD's :-( (I drive an 80 series, same problem).
My thinking then is to start by getting traction in the rear first, then move on to the front. Locker activated in the front will make it less inclined to steer where you want it to, especially in mud.
If I drove a Patrol, I'd maybe consider putting the locker up front as their LSD rear actually works! The ideal setup will always be front AND rear though.
Cheers
NUTS!
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 19:49
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 19:49
I agree with these comments. I have a Patrol and the LSD is still tight even after 250,000km. I have an air locker in the front.
The locker is really at its best when you're in extreme situations where you lift a wheel off the deck. So, in sand they are not really necessary; but there are certain circumstances on sand when they can be useful. On rocks and other highly uneven terrain, if you lift a wheel and don't have a locker (or good LSD), then the wheel that's in the air will get all the drive and you'll be going nowhere fast.
Roachie
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Reply By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 20:23
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 20:23
I have air lockers front and rear in my 100 series.
If your only going for one locker, in a LC, put it in the rear and get rid of that usless LSD.
I have only ever had to use my rear locker in anger to get me out of trouble and steering was available. Once the front is locked in, loss of any meaningful steering occures and it's straight forward or reverse.
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Reply By: Tonyfish#58 - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 21:02
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 21:02
I am a front Diff Lock advocate.
I had an ARB Air Locker in front of my Land Cruiser - worth all its $
I now have a Lokka in my Rodeo up front, but they do have a very good LSD.
For the price you could consider Lokka in both front and rear of your rig. Treat them right and you should have no issues.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Steve and Viv - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:54
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:54
I'm with the others that support a front diff locker. We have an ARB Air Locker up front in the Paj. Pajeros also have awesome rear LSD. Made in the same factory as the Nissan ones. I think this makes the best decision for all. If you have a good LSD then go front. If not, go rear.
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Follow Up By: D200Dug- Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 16:15
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 16:15
Same here after some investigation I went for front locks on the rodeo
the LSD seems to do a good job by itself so not much point in replacing it.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:23
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:23
It essentially depends on weight distribution and axle articulation aussiedingo.
So for most cars its the front that is better with a locker.
We went thru the exercise and measured and filmed results on calibrated tracks and it was much better on the front axle in Nissan Patrols which have a slight front wheel weight bias.
The advantage remained but lessened when we added a spot load of 300kg extra over the rear axle.
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Follow Up By: warfer69 - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 22:08
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 22:08
Yeah i am hearing ya Robin..ARB in the Front and fulltime Locrite locker in the Rear..
Hope you and your wife are travelling
well...
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