High Lift Jack How to use them
Submitted: Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:30
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Member - Wayne B (NSW)
Looking at a getting a High Lift Jack. Looking at a few pictures I cant figure out where the jacking point on the Vehicle would be. The lift pad on the jack looks short and would not reach far under the vehicel??
Do you need to install special lift points. I have a HJ80 2" Lift kit fitted. Also has side steps.
Thanks
Wayne B
Reply By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:51
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:51
Hi Wayne, a high-lift jack can be useful for rare recovery situations but there are limitations too.
Firstly they should never be used for wheel changing or any maintenance task on or under the vehicle. They are mainly to raise a vehicle's wheel to permit inserting packing under the wheel if bogged or in a deep rut.
They can also be used to lift front or back to allow a sideways shift out of a rut. To do this you really need special lift points on strong bumpers, bull-bars or drawbars. The body curvature of modern vehicles does not allow lifting under the chassis.
An alternative is an attachment which hooks into a wheel and connects to the jack and safely allows lifting the wheel, but obviously not to change it!
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:54
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:54
wayne
basically you need to have jacking points built into your front and rear bullbars
as shown on this ARB bullbar
or use a 'lift mate'
Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:08
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:08
Yep, that's the attachment I was referring to. The video makes its use clear but blimey they make heavy going of the dialog don't they.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:11
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:11
Allan B
yeah agree about the dialog :-)))
Actually he says all that really needs to be said in the last 15 secs or so of the video :-)))
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:27
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:27
wayne
you can also buy a 'bumper liftkit' which looks like this
I haven't used one personally as I have bullbars front and rear
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 08:37
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 08:37
I find that the Lift Mate for wheels can also be used on the bumper however both of these devices lose a lot of height capacity when lifting from the bumper.
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:55
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 22:55
A high lift jack can cause serious injury if not used correctly.Vehicles need to have properly installed brackets fitted to the front and rear which will take the lift pad on the jack without slipping.Most vehicles do not have suitable lifting points for a high lift jack so these need to be added.Also when using the jack on uneven ground it can become very unstable if lifted too high.The jacks are a great tool for recovery purposes but must be used with respect and some practical experience goes a long way in avoiding injury.
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:08
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:08
Ok that all sounds a little risky. Although the Lift Mate looks ok.
PLAN B. Exhaust Jack whats your thoughts on these. We use to call them Bull Bags.
Thanks again
Wayne B
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:19
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:19
Wayne
I also have an exhaust jack - which I really only use when I am in sand. I have used the HiLift many more times than the exhaust jack
Whilst the risks involved in using a HilIft are real - don't be put off by them - as stated above take the time to learn how to use it and it is a great accessory especially if you have avehicle with large tyres and 3" body lift as I have
Take a look at this HiLift Jack site it has aheap of 'how to' videos using the HilIft
HiLft Jack 'How to' videos
don't give up on the HiLift too soon :-))))
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:29
Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 at 23:29
Wayne
If you get a hi lift jack find a
good spot in the shed where it won't keep falling over and leave it there.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 17:38
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 17:38
Bob
I take it, from your comment that you have one or have used one and have had a bad experience
mind telling us what it was so we avoid the same thing?
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Reply By: Muntoo - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 01:11
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 01:11
I was taught how to use a kangaroo jack as a kid, and used them all through my teen years. You need to be shown how NOT to use them more then anything. Have changed many tyres with a roo jack, jacked bogged vehicles up, straightened fence posts, and never ever have i come close to being injured. I wouldnt be without one as long as your vehicle has safe and strong lifting points. Always carry a good size jacking plate also.
They are very easy to use as long as you use common sense. Keep it lubed up and stored ni a cover prefereably and it will give you years of service.
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Reply By: newhue - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 05:41
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 05:41
Don't forget you can get stuff made, I do for my daily driver all the time.
Like an extension bar that accepts a high lift but fits and locks into the tow bar. My ute tray covers the tow bar so I get a certified welder to make me something up. Those wonderful accessory shops aren't the be all of 4x4 knowledge.
My alloy bbar only has air intake slots to the side of the number plate. If is use them for the Hi-lift it twists the bar into the grill a bit. So I lower the number plate a bit, drill and file a slot in the middle of the bar, and now have a equalised no slip point for the Hi-lift hook (pic above) to work with if needed.
Also check first to see if the Hi-lift hook (pic above) will fit your wheels, they don't for some apparently.....so I have been told.
Lastly, be prepared to do a bit of digging to level and ground the jack. Hard work in a rut or mud, but that's all part of the avenger, or learning curve.
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Reply By: get outmore - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:19
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:19
8os are easy to get the hub lifter for
IMHO they are by far and away the best way to use a hi lift
bumper mounts are next to use less as they are too high and you need to lift the whole
suspension
Hi lifts should only be used for recovery and never for changing tyres
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:23
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:23
heres a pic showing how much more effective a good hublifter is with this hang - up
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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 21:07
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 21:07
Must be good fun being out there trashing Govvy Cars. Looks like an awesome job.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 21:45
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 21:45
Hub Lifter. I seen one of those for sale and did not know what the hell it was.
See I learn something every day :-)
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Reply By: scrub puller - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 15:41
Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 15:41
Yair...new around here Guday! Highlift jack is probably the most useful bit of gear you can carry. Fit your rig up with lift points front and back. Shure saves groveling around in the dirt. You can even use them as a puller for getting out of bogs.
If you drive a "propper" vehicle i.e. a trayback with a steel body you can beef up the tie rail and lift the whole side of the truck out of a bog or for changing wheels.
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