Reocvery points GQ Patrol
Submitted: Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:49
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Nik & Dee
Might be a stupid question but figure better to ask now than find out the hard way.
On the back of my Patrol there is a U bolt of sorts on the rear bumper. I can't think of why it would be there unless it's as a recovery point, but I don't know I would want to try & snatch anything off it as the bolts go in the same way as the force, if that makes sense.
I have the hook under the bull bar on the front so thats OK
Also just read another thread on hi lift jacks, I bough one at the camping show las tweekend before I did my research. Can I use the tow bar as a jack point and could I lift the front end from the ally bull bar.
Cheers,
Nik
Reply By: Member - Mike (SA) - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 11:13
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 11:13
Hi Nik,
I have a GQ RB30. Yes that fitting at the rear bumper is rated as a recovery point.
I have snatched using that on a number of occasions - no problem.
Can't answer your Q on jacks though.
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:11
Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:11
Sorry to disagree but no. It isn't a rated recovery point. Snatching from this hook will eventually snap it it, and then the snatch strap, and what's left of the hook will become a missile.
Cheers
Brian
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 11:55
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 11:55
Rear mount is a recovery point.
You should be able to use jack under tow bar, the actual bar not the tongue that slides in and out. Don't use the alloy bull bar.
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Follow Up By: Member - Barnesy - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 22:27
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 22:27
Sorry I was wrong. That isn't a rated recovery point, it's only held in by 4 small bolts.
You can get a pin to fit into the tow bar hitch and that is rated.
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Reply By: White Rhino - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 15:01
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 15:01
I'm interested to know why you guys think it's a rated point?
Everything I've heard / read about snatching off that loop, including from the trainers on a 4wding course by Eureka 4wd here in
Perth, has said to avoid using
the loop for snatching at all costs.
A much better snatching point at the rear is to use the hayman reece hitch for the tow bar. Remove the tow ball attachment and thread the pin that holds the tow ball in through the eye of the snatch strap.
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Follow Up By: splits - Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 19:36
Friday, Apr 09, 2010 at 19:36
This photo appeared on the net a few years ago. I think from memory it is a Patrol rear loop and it was said to have broken during a carefully conducted snatching demonstration at a 4wd expo.
There is also no end of broken hook photos on the net as
well.
Car manufacturers, and after market hook manufacturers, usually say these hooks, loops or whatever are for towing only. When you see photos like this, it makes you think they might be serious.
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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:22
Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:22
No. It isn't a rated recovery point. Snatching from this hook will eventually snap it it, and then the snatch strap, and what's left of the hook will become a missile. I had actually removed
mine some years ago so as not to be able to use it. There is a hitch/shackle combination that is available for recovery, or just take the towball off the tongue and shackle the strap to the tongue. Make sure it's a rated shackle, not a cheapie! Also, you can remove the hitch, slide the strap down the hitch receiver and use the pin to hold it in place, although you run the risk of bending the pin which will be bugger of a job to get out! (It DOES happen...... it happened to a mate.) Remember to use a dampener on the strap!
As for the Hi-Lift, I was involved in two recovery's over
Easter that used Hi-Lifts. Not been a fan of them before, but I was impressed enough to agree that they have their place. I'm going to buy one soon. The rear bar should be fine to lift from, make CERTAIN that the jack is secure enough! I'm not sure about the alloy bar though, IMO they are a bit flimsy and the jack may damage the alloy. Practice with the Hi-Lift before you need to use it, and be careful, they can be dangerous. I know of a fellow who was knocked out by the handle of a Hi-Lift..... he won't ever use one again and won't sell his Hi-Lift or even throw it away..... he wants to make sure it can't hurt anyone else!
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 17:09
Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 17:09
As a GQ owner I have asked the same question. If you look behind
the loop to see how it's bolted on you will see that it is something that you wouldn't trust overtime (it's not rated).
for $60 - $70 get a aftermarket attachment that fits into your towing point. Pulling off both sides of the chassis and rated to something like 7 tonnes :)
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