Any solutions for seat belts jamming off road?

Mmmm. That's odd. There are three auto manufacturing plants in Australia. Holden (Commodore, Ute and Statesman), Ford (Falcon & Territory) and Toyota (Camry). They all use seatbelts supplied by Autoliv.

I wonder who Klippan supply? The retractor ball locking mechanisims are very precise bits of equipment. It doesn't take much to throw them out of whack and cause them to lock prematurely.

I'm assuming you know how they work, so unless you have jacked up the rear or front of your vehicle to make it sit uneven, I'd suggest replacing the belts with the genuine units, not aftermarket B/S stuff.

Gday,
Here is a solution....... If they don't work the way you expect, buy ones that do?
Othrewise.....change your driving style?

Buggered if I know??????

Hi Tim,
I regularly use a large office type “bull dog clip”. The type of clip which replaces the small paper clip when a larger one is needed.

In the normal seating position and belt fastened, just pull a couple of inches of seat belt out and clamp the bull dog clip at the top of the belt to stop it from retracting. These office clips are strong and hold the seat belt from locking too tight. This does not reduce the seatbelt functionality unless one pulls out a long length before fastening the clip. Try it.

Cheers…… Doodle

Clothes peg does the trick for me, same idea as the bulldog clip. If you dont use it and have to get out on a hill you wont be able to get the belt back on and thats a bad thing.

Well,up until 6 years ago, I worked 23 yrs at Autoliv and its Aussie owners before them. Some retractors are more sensitive than others, and some retractors are fitted into vehicles right on the limit of their locking range.If close to Campbellfield in Vic. they will have Engineers to help, if not loosen 9/16 unf fastening bolt and extract and retract the webbing as you slightly pivot retractor around mounting bolt. Find its centre point of lock range and tighten bolt in that position. Klippan do build a global product very well.

It seems from the various responses, that this IS a widespread problem but the best solution is a peg or clip. Not putting down this work around, but I'd have thought a better solution would be available.

Rip64, from your experience do Autoliv make retractors for different markets, such as road cars vs 4WD/farm machinery/trucks with their inherent more movement in the seat?

Tim

Interesting, I always give the seat belts a jerk to lock them, helps to stop me moving around too much off road. Feel more secure with a locked seat belt.

If I can't reach something, it doesn't get done. Or else I relocate critical items so I can reach them.

Seat belts have saved mt life a couple of times, and some injury other times.

Did put the old manual adjustment belts in one car, worked well. Set to the point you feel is right. For me that si nice and firm. :o)

Fair point OldPlodder,

My passenger's experience is that the belt tightens up on her and she fells more than firm - tied in too tightly really. She's prone to car sickness, so feeling overly constrained makes it all worse. If it stayed at the one setting it would be fine, but seems to work tighter.

Tomorrow I will get out the spirit level and get all anal about getting it perfectly 90°/90°. I've blown them out with air and sprayed a bit of silicon spray into the mechanism - no much goes in, they are well sealed off. Hard to tell if any of this is making a difference; it's hard to get a 14 yo to go for a test drive each half hour ....

Rip64, the Autoliv site has the model number for the correct belt to suit my vehicle, and I don't mind purchasing a pair of new ones if it is going to fix the problem, but this seems to be a problem for OEM installations as well as aftermarket. My vehicle came in from Japan as a second hand import, so had to have retractor belts retro fitted. I 'may' be able to source new Toyota ones as they would have been fitted to the Aus spec vehicles, but as B1B2 says, his OEM on his 80 where a problem from new, so I'm not sure if that will be a solution.