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I have just bought a Toyota GLX Wagon and it comes with 7 inch rims. I want to fit a decent tyre size eg. 285x75x16 instead of the 265x75 x16 that is on it .Question is what model toyota comes with 8 inch rims that the 285's need that has suffcient offset to fit my wagon. I am beginning to think that Toyota is being run by beauracrats similiar to the Govts we have now.
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Reply By: Cruiser 2091 - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:24

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:24
My 1996 model GXL has 16 X8 JJ rims and the original spec for the tyres are 275/70R16
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Reply By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:39

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:39
"I am beginning to think that Toyota is being run by beauracrats similiar to the Govts we have now. "

huh?

Please explain.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:51

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:51
Can you tell us what model/series Landcruiser you have.
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Reply By: Tenpounder (SA) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 15:49

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 15:49
Me no understand: 4% greater rolling radius; half an inch wider: why bother??
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Follow Up By: Secret Mens Business - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 17:21

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 17:21
Yes I would agree with you. How does it become a decent tyre size via 1/2 an inch.? The 4% rolling diameter is ok, otherwise you start playing with the dynamics of the vehicle. I would be trying to maintain the original vehicle however fit the best possible tyres etc
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Reply By: Member - Peter C (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 17:04

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 17:04
Sorry to all those guys that replied to my query Re rims etc.Yes it was done in haste.First what model is it .It has been serviced by Toyota and 7 of those have called it a different model. No. 1 a 76 series...No. 2 a 79 series. No. 3 a L/C Military4.5 t/d wagon. No.4 a 76 series troopcarrier.No. 5 a GLX Wagon. No. 6 a GXLwagon. No. 7 a Workmate . I think it is No 6 . It looks like a small version of a Troop Carrier. and it is a 07 build .
As for the Beauracrat bit .....It is a nice wagon , but there are so many things that Toyota have stuffed up over the last few years, you would have thought they could get it right by now My first Toyota was a 1964 Lite Stout.
Why mess around with stud patterns. Toyotas come with 15...16...17...inch rims
My wagon is 4 inches wider in the front track than the back. Changing some of the above in the middle of a model. The frustration caused when you bring trailers and campers into it. I hope that has solved some of your queries
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Follow Up By: Secret Mens Business - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 17:19

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 17:19
Straight over my head. Whats your motive through all this..?
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Follow Up By: Member - Amy G (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:45

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:45
If you have a look on the plate on your firewall, it will tell you what kind of Landcruiser it is. If you post that back, it will help everyone to answer your question as different models have different rims, offsets etc.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 19:10

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 19:10
Peter,
As Amy suggests, feel free to lift the bonnet and have a look - its a VDJ76, or "76series".
"GXL" Landcruisers came out in 1989 and existed on every series of Landcruiser and Prado since then. If you tell us its a VDJ76, then everyone knows what you're talking about.

As for your original question. Yep, you have 16x7 rims and while many have fitted 285/75 tyres to these rims, its technically illegal. Many tyre joints refuse to fit them, others don't care and are happy to take your money. Its your call.

If you like to be legal, then you'll need to buy a set of 16x8 steel or alloy rims off a 1998-2006 105 series (Rigid front axle) Landcruiser.

Second option if you want to upsize the diameter of your tyres is to fit 255/85R16 tyres - can get Maxxis, Cooper and BFG Muddies in that size. They fit your 7" rims perfectly.

Third option is to fit 265/75R16 LT tyres to your rims - thats what most people do.

Now the rest of your stuff: "Why stuff around with the stud patterns".
Toyota increased the clamp pressure considerably when they went from 6 x 12mm studs to 6 x 14mm studs. It means that the problem of broken studs has virtually disappeared. Many Nissan owners who have been overtaken by a runaway rear wheel may have wished that Nissan had done the same.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 19:22

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 19:22
Whoops.... "6 x14mm" should read "5 x 14mm"
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter C (VIC) - Friday, Apr 23, 2010 at 09:37

Friday, Apr 23, 2010 at 09:37
I know some of you think that I don't know what I'm on about . I have had 2/ 76 series troopies. Both of them had on the compliance plate 1 HZ 76 series L/C
I ran 32x11.5x15 6 std x8 inch BFG a/t I think they are the best all round tyre going.My trailer and my camper had all the same. Now I have bought a Toyota which has on the compliance plate JTEEV.... No L/C no series no nothing.Apart from the motor, it is now where as good as the old troopies in the road holding dept.The diff. is the tyre size and the track. Try driving it up a well worn track , its all over the place. The only way that I see to fix it is to fit spacers on the back and put a similiar tyre size to the 32,s I had on the old girls., and the closest is the 285,s on an 8 inch rim .Hope this helps all you people that were good enough to reply, and helps me also . thanking you .
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Follow Up By: prado4x4 - Friday, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15

Friday, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15
Peter,

The closest to your old 32" tyres (but for a 16" rim) is a 265/75R16 tyre. These can be mounted on the factory alloy 7" wide rims.

The 285/75R16's you mention are actually closest to a 33" dia tyre. As mentioned elsewhere by Phil, they can't legally be mounted on the factory 7" wide rims - although many people have a friendly tyre dealer who'll mount them anyway.

If you want 16x8" alloy rims, and can't find any of the factory rims from a 105 series (rigid axles) cruiser, there are a few aftermarket options. I think it is CSA who make the "royalle" (spelling?) rims - the same as the 105 series alloys. Allied do a "savanna" rim that looks the same as your factory VDJ76 series rims, but are 16x8" in size.

I originally went down the 255/85R16 tyre route (33" dia tyre, but narrow enough to be legally fitted to the factory 7" rims). Supply became an issue though as only a few manufacturers sell that size in Aust, and getting a set often involves ordering them in - not good out bush. I ended up replacing the rims with the Allied savanna 16x8" rims and putting 285/75R16's on (to keep the 33" dia) in the end when I couldn't source a new set of tyres prior to a trip.

As for the different axle sizes (track width) between the front and the rear - yep, it gets to be annoying. Unfortunately as you mention the only reasonable solution is axle spacers on the rear - and they are illegal for on-road use. So far I've been living with the diff track width. It's bareable on dirt and regular tracks for me, but in the sand the different track width is a right royal pain in the %&#.

John


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Reply By: Member - Barnesy - Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:09

Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:09
Why bother getting new tyres and rims when there is really nothing wrong with the 265x75? It seems like an unnecessary expense to me.

At the moment I am running 31*10.5*15 on the front with 75*16 on the rear because I took some off the CT that still had tread on them to avoid having to buy new tyres right now! This is a short term thing but my point is on a 4wd tyre size doesn't really matter (unless you are after a specific use for them). Especially the small size difference that you are talking about.

Barnesy
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Reply By: stevieaus - Friday, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:21

Friday, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:21
hi peter

if you want, pm me your full vin no. and I'll send you back all the info you need on your vehicle and also the tyre and rim sizes available. My email is sthomas@nunatoyota.com.au

steve
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