Photoshop?

Submitted: Monday, May 03, 2010 at 01:35
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Whats your take on this. I believe its been photoshopped. Look at how calm the water is around the croc, it just doesnt fit in with the surroundings. And from the height it was taken, it looks like a side on view not a view from above.

Whaddayathink?


I dont doubt for one minute that there would be a croc there, but to me this just looks like a bad attempt at photoshopping. You would think the NT news would have noticed it. April Fools perhaps.

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Reply By: Steve and Viv - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 01:47

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 01:47
I tend to agree. To calm around the croc
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Reply By: Brunohamilton - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 06:41

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 06:41
I believe it.
The croc may have just surfaced
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, May 03, 2010 at 07:11

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 07:11
Guys you have to understand crocks are able to be in the water and not make a ripple, I've seen them up close and personal, the water (almost) does not move around them even when they are moving, the crock may have been just sitting in the water as they do and not moving at all.

This croc IS moving, the ripple at the tail is almost invisable Image Could Not Be Found

This crock is moving too, yes, thay are 2 different crocs
there is no ripple in front of his head and I was up close
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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:33

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:33
Yeah i grew up around crocs my entire life, even had a spell at catching the buggars. But to me it just looks like you can see where its been cut out and pasted. As even the view of the croc looks wrong, it looks like the 2nd photo you posted, like its been taken at same height of croc yet the person taking photo is elevated. Must just be the way the computer is showing it but as someone has suggested its way clearer in the paper.
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Reply By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 07:28

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 07:28
I do a bit of work with photoshop. You would need to be able to see a much better quality copy of the image to be able to tell, and even then it is difficult to pick if the processor knows what they are on about. You need to be able to blow it up big enough to see the pixels in detail. I don't see anything on the image as it is in the post that suggests it is faked.
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Reply By: Member - David C2 (VIC) - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 09:45

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 09:45
Fake or not I think that the message is clear, care must be taken in and around water ways in the NT.

Cheers Dave
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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:35

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:35
You mean the whole top end.
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Reply By: Fiona & Paul - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:02

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:02
I agree with you Muntoo though no for the same reasons. The image is a low resolution so it would be difficult to be positive as there are too many variables to consider.

I am looking at the glow surrounding the croc and that seems to be the bit that does not sit well with me. Still its a pretty convincing job for the casual reader and it is getting the attention it was intended for.

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Follow Up By: Steve and Viv - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 14:30

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 14:30
That was my point as well. The way the light is around the croc.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:13

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:13
I once stood and watched a croc stalk my kids. I didn't let anything happen but it was interesting to see.

The croc was swimming about 3 or 4m out from the waters edge, off the beach at Seisia. He was just beyond where the water deepened. He was swimming slowly against the tide and holding his position off the beach.

A group of about 10 people were standing on the low dune at the back of the beach watching him. My youngest kids got bored and headed down towards the water. The croc dropped under the water and turned to face the beach where the kids were. I went down to the waters edge and brought the kids back to safety. The croc made no waves. While he was clearly visible from the dune when I got down onto the flat of the beach he was very difficult to see even though I had kept my eye on him all the way.

I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of the photo. If you look closely I think you can see small ripples around the croc's nose but even if you can't I stand by my position.

Duncs
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Reply By: 3GoBush - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:22

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 11:22
I have a copy of Saturdays NT News next to me as I type, the picture is a lot clearer than the link above, the photo is definitely not photo shopped.
I have swam at that beach many times over the years, I have never given crocs a second thought until now.

Cheers
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 12:31

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 12:31
Don't see what the motive would be to fake this photo..? Nobody paid for it..? And given the photo is so low res impossible to tell.
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 13:47

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 13:47
the NT News isn one of the most factual or politically correct capitol city dailys
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Reply By: tonysmc - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 14:15

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 14:15
Maybe the motive was for his mother (she was watching) to get the message across to her son that it is not worth swimming out to his boat in the top end.
Having said that I believe the photo is real. Looking at the photo that same calm is around the front of the boat which isn't even in the water. you can even see the same around the grab rail at the rear of the boat.
A number of years ago much the same happened in Gove. The police fired a number of warning shots. I think partly to scare the croc, but partly to get the swimmer to look around so he would be aware a croc was following him. There was video of that one which was shown on the news at the time. Probably on youtube now.

Cheers Tony
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Reply By: D200Dug- Monday, May 03, 2010 at 18:45

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 18:45
it looks like a stick to me

But then I have seen sticks become croc very quickly as well !
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Reply By: Flynnie - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 20:03

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 20:03
I use Photoshop a bit. Looks OK to me. Doubt anyone would fake a photo of crocs near people when it is so easy to take a genuine one.

Crocs don't always make ripples. Anyone relying on spotting ripples might find themselves on a crocs menu.

See photo taken at a billabong near Wyndham last year.

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There were at least three large crocs in the billabong near the viewing platform. They became active, had a territorial fight and impressed us with their size and stealth.

The croc in the photo held that position for a long time, no ripples. It merged in so well that a lot of people did not notice it until it was pointed out. It was a big croc.

Flynnie
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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 02:22

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 02:22
Yeah you generally get a couple of salties in there every wet. The resident croc is a male about 10 feet, maybe 11. Tend to find a few freshies and even the odd saltie floating belly up with limbs missing and some good scars. Living there is like living in there own 5 star hotel. The bigger males usually go further upstream to Parrys overflow, why i dont know, seeing as the water dries up quicker and is less food around.

A little bit of a local knowledge for all, have you ever been to the grotto about 30kms out of Wyndham. Ever swam there? Well, the Grotto feeds this billabong. Plenty of crocs just down from the grotto, and alround in the other holes and billabongs. Dont think for a minute they cant get up into the Grotto.

There is a place called Telegraph hole, 2 ks off the highway about 5ks from the Gibb turn off, on the Wyndham side. A nice sized saltie lives in there also. Along with some large barra. He is a very very shy bugger though. Very cunning also. This hole also feeds into Parrys lagoon.
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Reply By: Off-track - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 21:33

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 21:33
Looks like a fairly small croc compared to the bait.
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 23:48

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 23:48
...although not that small that you would catch me in there with him!!
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Reply By: dublediff - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 22:52

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 22:52
The croc is a survivor of the dinosaur era. Over time it has developed and survived in a wild and woolly environment. It is the ultimate predator. the lumps and grooves on it's back have evolved to ensure a smooth, ripple free movement through the water so that it can creep up on it's prey.

cheers Eric.
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