Is there a need for a second fuel filter?
Submitted: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 18:56
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Member - Marilyn P (NSW)
Heading off for 3 months up to the Cape in July. Driving an 09 Troopie 4.5L 70 series. Need advice from the experienced.
Would there be potential problems in the quality of the diesel?
Bit concerned that if I fill with dirty fuel either watered or sludged the motor won't be happy.
Would a second filter in line help?
Where is the best place to locate it?
Would there still be sufficient pressure from the fuel pump?
Any other problems I'm likely to encounter?
Reply By: Fatso - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 19:16
Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 19:16
Is there a need for a second fuel filter?
I would think not.
Would there be potential problems in the quality of the diesel?
I would think not any more than anywhere else on the NQ coast.
Any other problems I'm likely to encounter?
I would think no more than you would expect any where else.
Where is the best place to locate it?
Probably
Cooktown,
Coen,
Weipa,
Bamaga if you need one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 11:34
Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 11:34
I thought you may already have two fuel filters as standard kit in the Troopy??
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Reply By: Member - Dalb (SA) - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 20:55
Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 20:55
Hi Marilyn
For what its worth, I had concerns like yours and asked my very experienced mechanic about fitting a second filter to my Landcruiser TD 100 series.
I was advised not to do it as the extra load could cause problems with the fuel pump etc.
I changed my Toyota fuel filter for one with a bowl where you could see any water or other matter. This meant I lost the standard Toyota water alarm.
Ideally I would like a fuel filter with a bowl AND a water alarm fitted, but I dont believe there is one available.
Enjoy the Cape.....
Cheers Dalb
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Follow Up By: kwk56pt - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 22:11
Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 22:11
Responsive engineering sell a water trap with alarm , not cheap though
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 23:10
Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 23:10
On my Chev 6.5 V8 I have tried to cover most possibilities as regards bad diesel. From the tank, my fuel goes through a Facet 3-5psi pump, to a Morison Debug, to a CAV filter (all located at the back of the vehicle adjacent to the tanks). From there the diesel travels to the engine bay to a 2nd CAV filter and a 2nd electric lift pump, and finally into the Stanadyne IP. By the time it gets there it is clean enough to drink.
I do (personally) believe there is no downside to adding at least one electric lift pump near the tank to save the IP the added drama of lifting the fuel from the tank. I'm not 100% sure it's necessary, but Brunswick Diesel do fit one when they do their conversions. The 2nd electric pump is probably overkill, but what the hell....if one of these leccy pumps packs it in, I still have the 2nd one to rely on.
Roachie
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Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 10:17
Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 10:17
I had a Water Sedimenter fitted to 2007 Prado D4D by
Gold Coast Diesel and it has an alarm fitted.
The Unit looks like this
And the alarm which ignites and sounds looks like this
Check out more about the Water Sedimenter from Gold Coast Diesel here
You will note there is a DIY kit or it can be fitted at the
Gold Coast.
Thankfully the alarm has never gone off but gives me the peace of mind when I refuel.
Alan at
Gold Coast Diesel runs an excellent workshop and looks after his customers.
Am a happy customer and pleased to recommend him.
Pedro
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 11:29
Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 11:29
What did that set you back Pedro?
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 13:06
Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 13:06
Price is on the website.
I got
mine just under 3 years ago , and price was about the same.
Pedro
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Follow Up By: CJ - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 16:08
Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 16:08
Pedro
Does this catch and warn about water only or is it also a filter to catch dirty fuel?
CJ
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 16:25
Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 16:25
Spoke to Alan and he said it will trap the larger particles of dirty fuel only , before it gets to main fuel filter.
No warning buzzer for dirty fuel but , regular inspections will show the particles in bottom of glass bowl.
The unit is mainly for trapping water before it gets to main filter, and the alarm will provide immediate warning there is water in diesel.
It is worth watching the video on unit operating, which can be accessed on above webpage.
Pedro
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