Canning in a V8 Troopy

After Wiluna I hope to carry on, along with others and head North on the CSR.
I have followed threads and info on this site to work out how much fuel I would need to carry.
Using as a guide I found I got 15 lt/100ks from Ceduna to Glendambo on Goog's Track. Would this be a comparable base rate to work on.
It appears fuel at Kunawarritji Community is reliable, is it the same at Billiluna?
My Troopy is my home for about three months of the year so it is fully laden.
Has an one done the CSR in a V8 Troopy and can you tell me if I would need to carry any extra fuel apart from the 180 lt in the tanks?
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 12:49

Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 12:49
I would take fuel to suit 20 lt/100kms just in case.
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Follow Up By: Wilko - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 14:41

Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 14:41
Hi Russnic,

2nd the 20lts/100kms. .

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Navigator 1 (NSW) - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 12:06

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 12:06
August 2009 fuel cost for diesel at Kunawarritji Community was $3.20L cash or Debit Card.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 12:12

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 12:12
Thats almost theft.! I took a boat to Flinders Island Killiecrankie and ordered a tanker from Whitemark, the tanker drove 40kms to Killiecrankie, ran a 60 metre line out to my boat and we pumped 700 litres of diesel, the whole process took 90 mins and I got charged $1.92 which I thought was great value.
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Follow Up By: Wilko - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 13:27

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 13:27
I guess its supply and demand,

Till someone installs a roadhouse on the CSR or does another fuel drop, They could charge what they wanted.

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: rocco2010 - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 14:36

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 14:36
Gidday

i think we should worry more about the manipulation of fuel prices in metropolitan areas than the prices charged in remote communities.

The fuel tanker was at Kunawarritji when we passed through in 2009. Interestingly he had come from Alice Springs.

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Reply By: oldfart1953 - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 13:31

Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 13:31
G'Day Russnic,
Fuel no worries at Billiluna about $2.80 a litre.....just get enough to get you out to Halls Creek roughly half that price of Billi.
Billi shop hrs Monday - Friday Billi 0800 1100hrs 1400 1600hrs
Saturday 0830 1130hrs
CLOSED Sunday.

The country out here at the moment is absolutly stunning, beautiful sunny days & nearly at the stage of thinking about using a blanket or light doona at night.
Enjoy your trip!


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Reply By: CJ - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 18:55

Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 18:55
I'd be surprised if you got 15l/100 km

I would plan on 20, then have a spare jerry on top of that planning

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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 15:33

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 15:33
Towing an Ultimate camper last year we returned 15lt/100 and bought 60 lts. at Bililuna to complete the track. Also side trips to Carnarvon Ranges and The Calverts.
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 08:19

Monday, May 10, 2010 at 08:19
Thanks Pinko
That is the sort of information I was after, some one who has been there, done that in a similar vehicle.
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 23:37

Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 23:37
Hi Russnic,

Do your planning carefully, because you may take lots of side trips and these can add up to hundreds more kms and hence more fuel.

Last year a guy with a V8 Troopie did the CSR with his 180 l tanks and in addition he had with him and used 60 l in jerries as well, because of the side trips.

Sorry I don’t know what his consumption rate was, but can tell you the Troopie just ate up the corros and the dunes. He was running Old Man Emu suspension.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 07:59

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 07:59
Good point Phil

As I am doing same trip I have been trying to work out the distances and exploroz site gives Wiluna to Biluna as about 1820 but my plot is only 1680.

Haven't resolved this just yet but it looks like some side trips beyond just the wells have been included in exploroz plot.
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Follow Up By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 11:12

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 11:12
Robin,
using the westprint Canning map I came up[ with wiluna - biliuna as 1829Km visiting all wells but no detour to Calvert Ranges or Helena springs.

Intend to order fuel for well 23 dump next week are you still interested in sharing a 44of ULP.

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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 12:30

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 12:30
Hi Guys
You know where I am coming from..
Checked it out to along with fuel use notes.
I have lived a a lot of my life with diesel fuel and understanderbly reculuctant to share my living/sleeping quarters with cans of the stuff if I don't have too.
Murphys law says they will leak, and do so at the worst possible time, empty not a problem, sling them up on top.
Would there be anyone else doing the same trip that would be interested in sharing a drum of diesel at well 23 ?, a top up there should get me to Billuna, withought having to rely on getting fuel at Well 33.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 13:08

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 13:08
Hi Howard

I hadn't heard anything so have planned to go without needing petrol from fuel dump but I think we should carefully check distances etc and finaly decide.

This might interest Phil as well even though he is on diesel.

Based on exploroz trip notes and plot I have plotted my own and am in the middle of working thru things and it appears the biggest distance is significantly less than I thought.
My plot is in the form of a gpx file which can be loaded into Ozi or Garmin etc.

Even though I have not fully checked them I will give some idea here to see if others might agree.

Total distanceWiluna to Biluna (going to all wells ) is 1689km (thought 1830 as you did)

Longest no-fuel section is only 1012km (Wiluna to well 33 community) not 1150

Using 21lt/100km average but calculations based on 25lt , we should only need 250lt of fuel maximum and probably use 210lt.
Adding 200km margin for total of 1200km at max consumption of 25lt still only brings total up to 300lt which could be done without expense of fuel dump.

What do you think ?

If you tell me where you will be stopping I could knock off some of your fuel and guarantee I have no problems - well unless you catch me !

P.S. I have a detailed well by well plan with each section and I note where the discrencies lay.
E.G. Expoloroz notes quote durba springs to well 18 as 80km , but thats because they go via Diebil hills , without this detour its only 36km i.e. 44km less

Was planning seperate post about this -but if your planning to order soon then need to sort out.








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Reply By: Flynnie - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 18:40

Friday, May 07, 2010 at 18:40
I am planning to take enough jerry cans to cover the whole distance. I was initially working on an estimate of 15 lt/100k and 2,000 k meaning I would need 300 litres for my V8 trayback. Revised this estimate a bit and now plan to carry 180 litres in 9 Sceptre diesel jerries for 360 litres total. This should give me 2,400 k range at 15 lt/100k or 1,800 at the higher 20 litre per 100k. I could carry more but am wondering what the consumption really is like out there. I planned to top up at the communities but not to be stranded if there was a problem of supply at one or the other.

The 20 litre figure suggested on this thread seems very high. That is higher than vehicles use in the Simpson. Is the Canning heavier on fuel than the Simpson?

About to go and buy a few more jerries.

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