Landcruiser Petrol vs Turbo Diesel vs Diesel

Submitted: Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 08:51
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Just wondering if anyone can help. We have $20,000 and want to get a landcruiser. Currently we have a dual cab hilux. We have 2 kids (1 teenager) and the back is too small for long trips. We also have a camper trailer. We don't do extreme 4wdriving, more touring. Need something for the beach if necessary. The landcruiser will mainly be driven around town.

Points:
1. Would like an 80 series turbo diesel - but none around - baulking at getting one with over 300,000ks
2. Thought of getting a diesel and adding turbo - but again there doesn't seem to be many around with low enough price to add turbo (have driven a diesel and seems to be sluggish around town).
3. Thought of getting a 100 series petrol/gas with low ks. Would like one with gas as have heard they are quite thirsty.

Looking for people's thoughts on whether the 80 series with over 300,000ks in $16 - $20 price range is too much considering their age.

P & J
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 09:17

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 09:17
300000kms with a good service history should be ok, really not to many kms for a diesel thats been looked after.
Its a personal thing but I'd go a petrol.Sure it will drink more fuel, but when you weigh up other things, IMHO you will come out in front.(and I drive a cruiser diesel)
Petrol vehicle will be cheaper to buy.
Service cost will be cheaper.
Quiter to drive.
Stronger gearbox.
Fuel system not as easy to damage as diesel.
Cheaper to repair.
We have travelled alot around Australia with my parents and they own a 80 Series petrol and have never had trouble sourcing petrol in outback Aus.
We purchased a Diesel LAndcruiser N/A and towing a trailer was just a pain in the backside.We would have lost too money to trade it in and an engine conversion was out of the question.So we put a Turbo and I/C on ours, set it up for touring(no big power needs) and now have an awsome vehicle.EGT's temps run lower alot of the time than on a N/A diesel.But I got lucky and picked up the kit cheap.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 20:34

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 20:34
I agree with Nick.
For what you are planning:
I'd be looking at a 1993-98 80series petrol. Can be bought for about $10,000k. Spend the extra money to convert to LPG and add the odd accessory. They are a more reliable motor than most diesels. A good Turbo deisel of the same vintage will cost you twice as much and will be more expensive to repair.
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 09:24

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 09:24
Hi Guys,
Don't be put off with an 80 1HDT that has over 300 000k's on the clock. If she has log books that show every penny That's been spent on her, and servicing and the Big End Bearings have been done every 100 000k's grab one. With the turbo, 1HDT, make sure it has the bigger radiator(4 core), they like to stay cool. I know they are getting harder to find and 20K is about the money you'll pay for a good one, maybe even more.
I have friends atm that are looking for one as well, I've told them to be patent and one will come along. My old girl has 310 000k's on her now and in the next month I will have the BEB's done again. I've questioned or not update to a 100, and blokes I've spoken to have told me to spend the money on giving the old girl a real good work over, the 15k spent on that would be better value.
This just my option, I'm sure others will have other ideas.
Happy travels, and good luck with your search guys.

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Reply By: OREJAP - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 10:35

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 10:35
Buy a V8 petrol cruiser put it on the LPG injection system......they are cheap at the auctions because no one wants them.....but on gas could mean a better resale value. You could even pick up a 6 cyl petrol Nissan Patrol.
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Reply By: 3GoBush - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 11:31

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 11:31
I recently sold an 02 100 series with 320000 for $ 14000, so an 80 series for $16 to $20 grand would have to be in perfect condition.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 17:23

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 17:23
Hi 3GoBush,
I reckon it would surprise you what some 80's are going for.
My old girl is insured for $24k with the few extras it has and GIO don't have a problem with this. Of cause this is an Agreed Value. A recent thread on Lcool about what your 80 is worth/insured for and above $20k in the norm for a 1HDT even with 300000k's on the clock.
The Redbook only values them at about $10 000, which in my opinion is undervalued, but Glass's value them at a lot more.


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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 21:01

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 21:01
was that an 02 100 or 105?

There is a massive disparity between the TD in 80 and 100, and either of the other options (petrol/1HZ). While I have a 04 TD, I am simply amazed by how they seem to hold up value wise.

I dont know how its justified except supply and demand.
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Follow Up By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 20:44

Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 20:44
go the petrol 80 series
I am on my second after having a few others including old series landies , an fj 45 landcruiser and a diesel 60 series.
I paid $16000 for a 92 gxl with 280,000 and ran it until over 400000 and it needed nothing apart from oil services , fuel, brakepads and tyres traveled most of the big treks like cape, gulf, deserts, kimberly etc without any issues. sold it for $5000 after 5 years
3 years ago i purchased a 97 40th anniversary model for $ 15000 with 180 ,000km that it had more than that In $ value of arb accessories. Vehicle will do a 13000 trip this winter including anne beadell, csr , kimberley and down the centre, and will have its 280000 service before we leave.
I am P#SSed off because I had to fit a 2nd hand ac unit after running it in mud in a comp earlier this year. 80 series normally dont need repairs.

with a petrol 80 you fill them up ( yes regularly)change oil and filters every 10K , brakes every 50K, tyres every 70k and plugs every 100k if they need it. otherwise you just drive them.

heaps of power
, tows heavy CT easily.
I do however consider the LR fuel tank on the new one its best feature with 255 litres even a petrol will give the 1200 km range.
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Reply By: Redmer - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 23:48

Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 23:48
My 1992 GXL 80 series 1HDT with 295.000 on the clock, fully rebuilt engine 50.000 ago comes up for sale end of July/beginning of August..... send me a pm if interested.
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Reply By: Love the Country - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 17:13

Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 17:13
Thanks for all the comments. It sounds like we could get either petrol or t diesel and we would be doing well. I guess we wait to see what comes up in our area - regional Qld.
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