Trade Tools Direct Chainsaws
Submitted: Monday, May 10, 2010 at 10:31
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Hi all,
Been viewing the
forum for a long while now and find it a great source of information but this is my first post. I'm looking at purchasing a chainsaw which will be used for firewood when camping and also lopping of the occasional tree at
home and if one's across the tracks at some point in time. From my research so far I think a 14-16" bar will do what I want but have no idea on what power will be adequate. I realise that Stihl's are very highly regarded but wondering if there are any other cheaper alternatives worth considering seeing as I won't be using it that often? Still needs to be reliable though obviously.
A lot I've looked at so far look to be quite cheaply constructed but came across the Trade
Tools Direct own branded ones on the weekend and they look quite solid and
well put together. Can get a 14" bar version for $238. Has anyone had any experience with these? What are they like and how easy are they to start as my experience with chainsaws to date (all older models mind you) has been that actually getting one to start is half the battle.
Thanks for any assistance,
John.
Reply By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 11:44
Monday, May 10, 2010 at 11:44
I have used both cheap and expensive chainsaws, We had a husqvarna when i was landscaping and it went all day everyday, rain hail sunshine, couldn't kill it, aas for the cheaper ones, constantly back to the dealer for repairs, chains needed constant sharpeneing, which i did by hand or if i had them machine then i would use it.
the husky only got a bar and chain because someone forgot to fill it with bar oil before it was stolen.
Oh the cheap chainsaw, can't remeber the brand, bar oil lube port constantly got blocked up.
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Reply By: Member - Des - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 13:33
Monday, May 10, 2010 at 13:33
Congrats on your first post
John!
We have had a Jonsered 2145 (ie 45cc engine) for some years. It has been very reliable and a good saw. Jonsered are a Swedish company, sister company of Husquvana - both owned by Electrolux. I asked an arborist what he recommended and he said Stihl, Husky or Jonsered.
The dealer we bought from sold and serviced different brands (many dealers are tied to one) and recommended the Jonsered as better value. He pointed out that it had metal parts that were plastic in the corresponding model Stihl, and better vibration control. He also recommended a 45cc engine as the minimum necessary to cut big fallen trunks of hardwood. His experience was that many people bought saws that were underpowered for their needs.
We travel a lot in the High Country and East Gippsland by ourselves. We often encounter fallen trees. Here is one example. We had driven 2 hours up Zeka Spur from the Wonnangatta Valley and are within a couple of kms of the Howitt Rd. Progress is blocked by a large fallen tree wedged between standing trees. No one else around, and it's a long long way back down to the Valley and out by another route (probably with a very cranky co-pilot). I pull out the saw. I really want to know it is going to work. Yank on the cord, VROOM. Chop up the tree, off we go. Am I thinking, "I could have saved a couple of hundred buying a cheapy" or "Thank goodness I bought a quality saw"?
You feeling lucky punk?
Cheers,
Des
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Reply By: Member - Tony (ACT) - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 14:22
Monday, May 10, 2010 at 14:22
I have 4 chainsaws on the
farm. McCulloch, Homelite, and two Stihl's, both
farm boss 032 & 038. The 038 gets most of the work as it has the power for
clearing fence lines and all the big jobs. A heavy saw, too big to carry around for camping. The 032 fits that area really
well and the one I carry into the high country for track
clearing etc. The other two never get used anymore.
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Reply By: rowdy31 - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 17:00
Monday, May 10, 2010 at 17:00
Mate just go the cheapie. I have a Sthil 880 magnum and also the small 14" Talon and 18" talon.
For the price I dont think you can beat the Talon.
The small Talon saw i have had for about 5 years and it has been abused at
home and bush, dropped bounced out of the trailer, dropped, driving the blade into dirt and sand and yet runs sweet and starts first time. If that was my Sthil i'd probably cry!
If just for camping just spend about $150 and get a small Talon or similar and it will do you for what you need and you will get years of service out of it.
Alot of folks always go the expensive stuff and then always try to justify the purchase, as long as it is maintained and kept sharp the thing will last for years.
Chains going blunt have nothing to do with the brand of saw as you get the quality chains to suit etc.
Its the same as everything you purchase (lights,
winches etc) no one wants to buy them and always bag them out.
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Follow Up By: rowdy31 - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 17:05
Monday, May 10, 2010 at 17:05
The Sthil is in its own league when it comes to the big tough wood but since having the smaller cheaper ones i hardley use it anymore. My 18"talon hasnt been started for over a year but if i put some fresh juice into it i am confidant it will start first pop.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, May 10, 2010 at 23:19
Monday, May 10, 2010 at 23:19
Nev,
check out these, I think you will see they are better long term than some more expensive chainsaws?
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I bought it when I was travelling, now don't need it :-)
six hours work, 2 x bars, 3 x new chains, block splitter, wedge etc etc
Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Gnomey - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 00:22
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 00:22
G'day
John
I don't know anything about the Trade
Tools saw but I do know a bit about chainsaws, having used them on and off for 30 years, and now frequently. Every winter I cut 16+ cubic meters for myself and an elderly neighbour and there are always smaller jobs to be done around
the block.
I'm also in the Stihl
camp, my current one being an 044 with the 20" bar. I've had it for 20+ years. In that time I've had one
breakdown - the coil.
IME small saws are ok for small jobs and hopeless for bigger ones so for track
clearing I would regard a
Farm Boss or equivalent as the minimum. I wouldn't seriously consider a 14" bar for anything other than pruning. Somebody else posted about a dealer saying a lot of people buy saws that are too small. That's my experience too.
It's true that bigger saws are heavier, especially if you are cutting at or above waist height. It's also true that cutting with lightweight saws can be like gnawing on a gal water pipe.
Factor in safety gear, spare chain, sharpener and learning how to keep chains sharp. I would suggest buying the biggest you can safely and comfortably handle - new or secondhand - within the budget. If that extends to a Stihl or Husky - bonus.
If you get one, keep the fear alive - your health will benefit. :^)
Cheers
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - Des - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 11:08
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 11:08
Completely agree about keeping the fear alive Mark. Safety is a whole other topic, but I would just say that it's vital to keep your mind on the job all the time. While the instruction books have lots of warnings about kickback, the kickback area on modern saws is quite small. But there are lots of other things to focus on - like securing your footing, keeping the saw outside your legs, planning your exit if the branch/trunk falls, etc etc. All common sense in the end, but complacency is one of the biggest dangers. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of accidents occur when people are doing easy jobs, because they tend to concentrate more for harder jobs.
Cheers,
Des
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Follow Up By: Gnomey - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 11:10
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 11:10
Yeah Des. Spot on. You describe exactly the circumstances in which I very nearly did myself a serious mischief. We could swap stories I'm sure, but that's another thread.
Cheers
Mark
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