The idiots that make Oil filters

I know where you are coming from. I usually end up getting frustrated and shoving a phillips head screwdriver right through the thing to loosen it.

Not pretty, but.......

Because that would require a sturdier housing.
And then people would complain about the nut size if it wasn't 19mm LOL.

Have you tries and end-on removers? I wrap a belt around a bar and twist.

i agree aswell!!!
the best thing about my nissan GU 3.0l motor was the oil filter was a cartridge inside a housing. the housing could be undone by puting the square end of a ratchet in and undoing it. bloody top idea.

How much tighter would it have been if the idiots put a hex nut on the end to do it up with LOL

get yourself a nylon strap oil filter remover, never fails to remove filter.....about $20 from repco

I hear ya :) Spent the weekend changing the oil, and doing some maintenance on the DiD Pajero. First time i had used my gear to do the job only to find the oil filter huge! Had to purchase another tool which does a terrible job at the angle needed to access the filter....gggrrrrr.

Andrew

I have to agree with Wicket.The Nylon strap remover is attached to a 1/2 inch connecter and the socket ratchet makes it easy to remove most oil filters.My old diesel Jeep had the oil filter tucked well up in the bowels of the motor and this piece of equipment was the only one that worked.

hahah

Ill let you off if you didnt service the vehicle last time yourself

otherwise whose the idiot?

you put them on and take them off by hand - never used a filter remover on a filter I fitted myself

Because people would over-tighten them more than they do now. Mine go on by hand and come off by hand- though sometimes a bit of force is needed, I only need my hands.

We're hearing ya brother :-((

Unless ya drive a pre 1970 holden or falcon, ya can't reach nothing any more, LOL, but then some of these young blokes would want to know where the rest of the flamin' donk was ? hahahahahaha :-)))

hi
if they are put on in the correct manner no nut or spanner is needed

and if a nut was built into the cannister blokes would do them up that tight they would squease the oring or seal to the point it would bugger up or leak

and the cost of a filter would double if a nut was built into it

imho
me thinks it's the nuts that fit a filter too tight is the real nut issue

not having a go at anyone in particular just my thoughts on something that re-occurs each time an oil change comes around
cheers

It's not necessarily a problem with the way the filter has been put on. My Toyota Starlet that I use to commute has the filter in a position that only allows one hand access. I'm able to get it as tight as required when installing the filter using one hand, but getting it off with one hand (that sounds rude!) is nearly impossible.

I made up my own removal tool using some 25mm strap screwed to a bit of 25X25mm pine.

why do you all think so complicated ?? who needs a strap for a filter ??
just a screw driver will do, ram it through the housing and off ya go ..
never had any trouble that way if it really was too tight from some
idiot mechanic who has no idea about pressure fittings.
have fun
gmd

Hi rough as guts,

I agree but I think the overiding problem is the lack of room around motors these days. I had a loose bolt on my Pajero and I could access it, I had to take it to the dealer.

Give me the old 70's motors which had about a foot clearance all round lol.

Cheers Wilko

if its that big a deal go to Supercheap or Repco etc and get a remote filter housing setup.
Probably around $100 and something bucks and you can bolt it to the roof if you want!

After years of working oil filters by hand the latest tool from toyota to suit their new V8 engines is a hex head oil filter remover.

Toyota have made an oil filter that goes inside the sump housing and this tool removes the great big plug so you can get at the oil filter. You would think other companies could make up a similar tool for external oil filters. Maybe they do.

And the oil filter is located next to the drain plug so you don't have oil coming out in two locations and end up with oil all over the driveway. Plus it is very easy to access being just under the passenger footwell area.

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Oil filters used to have hexagon nuts on the end but don't ask me when they were removed.
Talking about complexities of vehicles these days, a chap in our village has a Mitsubishi Magna V6 and to change the rear three spark plugs he had to remove ,I believe, the inlet manifold. I believe that the vehicle manufacturers do not want the average joe to do maintenance of their own.
Perhaps we should ask some of these so called salesmen, or is that sexist, how do I ect?
One thing that struck me was with my son's car. The fuel pump cacked it. The pump was inside the fuel tank and the tank, which was 3/4 full had to be drained and the tank removed from the car to fix it.Fortunately he was close by and I was able to tow him into my workshop.
In another instance I had a F150 with duel fuel tanks that had a fancy gismo to change tanks. I don't think that this gismo worked from day one, so I installed an external fuel pump and simply transferred fuel from the rear tank to the front when required.
I also had an instance where the fuel pump on a Holden that had the old red motor cacked it but I was able to get home by syphoning fuel from a jerry can on the roof. You couldn't do that with the new vehicles. As far as room in the engine bay (what room) forget it and unless you have a pit or a hoist some jobs are very hard to do.

We use nothing but Holden 202 engines to power our farm trucks and if it dont have one in it from factory we soon make sure it does as they are VERY reliable and EASY to work on imho and as for oil filters as mentioned before you put it on by hand and you take it off by hand ,the last time I bought a filter for my cruiser I was offerd a filter with anut on it but I cant remember the name of it and while we are on the subject I met a bloke about 4 weeks ago with an old patrol that has a removable housing that he then throws away a toilet roll and installes a new one,he said he has done it with his trucks for years and never had a problem and as long as he carries oil with him he wont get stuck as he always has a roll of dunny paper with him LOL! ??
has anyone else seen these as I want to buy one for my cruiser as a back up plan??

Cheers all :)