Nissan Navara purchase

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I am considering purchasind a late model diesal Narvara Twin cab but I have heard some horror storys about the clutchs in them. (replacing clutch twice in one year and vibarations come from the clutch and tending not to stand up to the work a)Do they have any problems with the automatic version and is this a better option. I intend to travel this great land pulling a light weight van (under 1000kg) plus use as daily driver ..
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Reply By: Member - Richard L (WA) - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 17:49

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 17:49
I have a 2002 DC Navara done 200,000K's including Canning Stock route Rudal River and numerous other off-road trips also some heavy towing in beach sand. Never had any clutch problems.........never had any problems for that matter......however have had vehicle since new and treat it with respect

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Follow Up By: gbc - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 18:18

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 18:18
a 2002 d22 isn't exactly late model now is it?

Google d40 clutch issues - the fix is a heavy duty clutch. I haven't heard of the autos giving issues.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 19:20

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 19:20
The D22 is a great vehicle, and have had no probs with mine, also 2002 165000 ks, tow 2 tonne van. If you're talking D40 model perhaps you should say so. They are 2 totally different vehicles.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 23:43

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 23:43
The D40 and the later D22 models have dual mass flywheels. These are ok in normal driving and tradesmans use. However when you give them a lot of off road use and heavy towing they seem to be lacking. All the modern Jap utes seem to be using them and reports of clutch failures seem to occur with most of them.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 23:51

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 23:51
The rest of the links - I hit the wrong button above.

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You may note things like "can prematurely fail if horsepower and torque are increased." With this in mind it looks like they will not stane up to chipping the motor.

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Reply By: OREJAP - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 18:29

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 18:29
To save any possible hassles buy a new Triton....love that car. Also has much better turning circle.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 19:22

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 19:22
Just can't win best ute of the year prize !!! Both model Navs have !! (several times over !)

Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 22:20

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 22:20
My 2006 D22 certainly won't win best ute of the year...... Although I have to do a gearbox at 110 000 it has 160 000 on it now and is really my town car.

At 40 000 it developed 9 cracks in the chassis. Nissan would not warrant it and it still has 9 cracks in the chassis. I have looked at other D22's and have found similar cracks in the front end.

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Follow Up By: Jenny M - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 22:52

Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 22:52
Hey extfilm - exactly where are the 9 cracks - I have same model and maybe better have a close look - cheers
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Follow Up By: Injected - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 03:38

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 03:38
You would have to be blind to by a triton.. whats the story with the rear bumper OMG ugly lol.
If you have the coin try a Hilux and yes i drive a D40!!
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Follow Up By: OREJAP - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 10:56

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 10:56
What is really annoying in all of this "purchasing" business you select the vehicle you believe is "right" for you (and family) & buy it in good faith.....a few years down the track you are stranded with a blown motor,replacing clutches & CRACKED CHASSIS. I might be "blind" to buy a Triton but at least purchases get looked after (protected) with 5 year warranty & road side assist PLUS 10 YEARS Warranty on the drive chain....Gearbox/auto. Motor & diffs. When God was handing out warranties Mr NISSAN thought he/she was another Nissan customer coming to complain and went & hid behind the door with the Toyota crew!!!. I thought I read on this forum there is a class action commencing against Nissan. I wonder why? Remember, that beauty is in the eye of the beer holder!!!
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 20:12

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 20:12
An occasional vehicle of any make/model will give problems. Only very rarely do you hear of probs with Nav D22s . Peter (extfilm) is always complaining, and I think he is responsible for 95% of the reported probs. The rest of us are happy with ours,; maybe he treats his differently ?

Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 21:09

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 21:09
I have the cab chassis and most of the cracks have appeared at the mounts to the tray. There is also a crack on the radiator support for which I saw a second hand one in a car yard with the same crack. There also seems to be cracks on the upper control arm welds.

Now funny you should mention that I treat mine differently Ian. For some reason that Navara is the only vehicle I have treated very kindly too. I am a qualified motor mechanic and with all the vehicles I have had (Subaru's, cortina's, Corolla's, 4 Runner, Hilux, Landcruiser). We still have the 03 Hilux and one of the worker's is driving it at the moment and I have seen them put that thing through hell. It has never had a problem.

The first cracks appeared in the Bull bar after 12000 kms after driving from Alice to Exmouth on the Gary Junction rd and Tallawana track. Had new bull bar installed at Kalgoorlie. Returned via the great central and the Simpson (people say they do the simpson in 3 days. I am pushed to get it done in 4 days and my average speed was 18kms an hour. Still have the GPS tracks for proof). The new bull bar had cracked in only 4000 kms. Nissan put another on. This time No Dirt driving for 20 000kms and bull bar cracked again, this time noticed chassis cracked too.

However saying that, I now have a suspicion the ute may have been involved in an accident prior to me picking it up. I bought it brand new and it had 296 kms on the clock when I picked it up. I am finding a few tell tale signs as age wearies it.

I will never give Nissan the time of day again.
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Reply By: happytravelers - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 07:35

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 07:35
The Navara D40 clutch is a very weak unit. It will not handle towing or sand driving. I'm a mechanic and have replaced numerous of these clutches, some on vehicles only a few thousand kms old. There is an after market heavier clutch available, but given the option I'd go the auto which doesn't have too many problems. Alternatively if you wanted a manual, the latest D22 is good value for money. Personally a Triton or Hilux would be my pick of the new utes.
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Follow Up By: jcm68 - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 07:50

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 07:50
Thank you very much for your advise ,Ill start to look at the auto version,but maybe the triton maybe a better buy.

Thanks
John
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 13:47

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 13:47
I personally reckon (note 'personally') that for touring and off roading, expecially if towing, you cannot beat an automatic. I'm on my very first automatic vehicle of any sort, always been a manual fan, and this D40 is superb both on an off the black stuff. The auto especially comes into its own in modern vehicles which are all 'fly by wire' remote throttles - go to Low-Low 4WD and there's none of that jerkiness that is apparent in manuals. Sure you can learn how to control this but just reckon that the auto is just that much easier.

Also as we get older we all (yep ALL of us) get slower and the auto lets me make the odd timing mistake on that off road track......changing gears that is...doesn't help much with misjudging the distance between rocks etc :-)
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Reply By: montana - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 15:55

Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 15:55
our 06 d40 auto has over 150,000km on it and done a fair bit of towing and off road/sand /mud.the only problems i have heard of is by using wrong atf when serviced.i always pay the extra for nissan fluid then if it fails it wont be from the wrong fluid.
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