4x4 shockers
Submitted: Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 19:30
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Member - john c2 (SA)
hi all. ive just come in from the shed after fitting a pair of spring spacers to my 80 and have discovered one of my toughdogs is in need of a vet. so i am after either a pair, or 2 pair, of new shocks. they are 45 mm adjustables and have had a hard life. my question is do i go another set of toughdogs or another cheaper brand. the lc80 has a 2" lift with king springs. the car, to date, weighs 3030 kgs with an ARB dual wheel carrier with 33" cooper stt's hanging on the back. i have checked out the web for reports, but it is varied as to brands and faults,good and bad. i will be towing a van but not for the serious offroad stuff. i do like adjustables. just wish they were adjustable from the cockpit,or are they? have'nt investigated that part yet. thanks.
Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 19:36
Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 19:36
i gave up on my adjustable konis and went for tough dog foam cells. never adjusted them anyway, i find the foams good in the back of my 100 loaded or towing the van. havent used them outback but apparently they fair very
well. for the price and sofar no complaints
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Reply By: john&thejayco - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 19:50
Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 19:50
g'day
John,
whilst looking into
suspension set ups for my 90 series Prado i came across a mob called 4wd1.com. they had something called a wireless Rancho Myride in-cab system for rancho and tough dog adjustable shocks.I don't know exactly how it works,but it might be what your looking for, hope this helps .
Cheers.
John.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 21:02
Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 21:02
Re adjustables - far as I recall the Koni's need to be taken off to make an adjustment - and it only changes the resistance for one direction of movement (forget which) - the manufacturer only intends that adjustment to be a compensation for wear (so an agent told me). That said, the Konis are still a great shock it would seem - had them on the Jack - was going to put some on the front of my LC100 but availability in my fitment was an issue - went Bilstein instead. Hear and elsewhere, can't recall ever hearing anything complementary about things like the Rancho adjustables - either the 'on shock' or 'in-cab versions' - I fear they might be in the 'cute, but impractical' basket...... hell - a wireless control version sounds uber-cute ! How about shocks with recirculating coolant next :-o) ?
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 21:52
Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 21:52
Just filling in the gaps. Koni's are adustable for rebound. Setting out of the box is full soft which is more rebound than compression. Even though they say adjustment is only for wear, if you have HD springs they need to be turned up accordingly. HD 1 1/2 turns, EHD 3 turns. Shocks with a bias to rebound are not suitable to IFS and are therefore not suitable to the front of a LC100 IMHO.
OBT
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 23:19
Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 23:19
If the Tough Dogs won't handle your situation then what do you think cheaper ones are going to do,
CHECK THESE OUT
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul & Bill M (SA) - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 00:00
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 00:00
ive only ever seen broken toughdogs
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 18:20
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 18:20
I've got them Doug. Highly overated IMHO. They were running at 150C on the Canning where as the Toughdog adjustables were running at 50C over the same conditions. I've gone the T/D big
bore adjustables on the new beast.
Cheers Mick.
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Reply By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 07:20
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 07:20
I find the Konis run cooler and suffer less damage (leaking) on serious corrugations. I've see as many leaking Tough Dogs. Konis are only adjustable when off the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 14:46
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 14:46
"Konis are only adjustable when off the vehicle."
Not quite. Easiest way I found to to adjust them is to undo either the top or bottom bolt, remove the internal bumpstop (if fitted), compress fully until the spline locates, then rotate the required numer of turns. I usually screwed
mine up one turn to allow for the extra weight when touring outback then return them to the softer setting once
home. About a 30 minute job on the car for all four.
Cheers Craig............
HZJ105 Koni's 300,000+ km
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 14:51
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 14:51
Yes true but a pain in the a$#@ to do that way
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Reply By: howesy - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 07:42
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 07:42
buy anything but big
bore EFS. They are the biggest load of rubbish I have ever had the displeasure to waste the best part of a grand on, Based on their shocks I would never buy another of their products. My OME nitros that were on the 75 when i got it were better and i have had it 3 years.
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Reply By: vk1dx - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:15
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:15
Everyone has had words for the "popular" 4WD shocks. Now for the brand normally associated with rallying. Ever watched the better cars land after a big jump. Like there wasn't even a jump there.
I would suggest you have a look at Bilstein. We have them and a cup sitting on the middle console (note not held there) and which was almost full did not spill a drop on a longish section of bad corrugations on the way up to
Cape Leveque.
Check them out.
Phil
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