Prado T/D blown turbo

Submitted: Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:13
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Just put my 2005 Prado Grande T/D in for 80,000klm service at a Toyota dealer that has serviced all my Toyotas (only done 71,000 klms) $954 owe. then told that the turbo has blown. with extended warranty it was serviced every 6 months except when I was overseas and it went to just under 8 months with only 4,000 ks since the previous service but the extended warranty do not want to pay as the car wasn't serviced at the 6 months date.
$3500+ to replace the turbo.
When the car was purchased a Toyota extended waranty was asked for but I was told the dealer could only arrange the policy through another company but was the same coverage. All be wary of other than original manufactures warranty.
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Ted G
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:27

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:27
Hi Ted. I think I would be getting a second opinion regarding the Turbo. What do they mean by "blown". Was the vehicle running poorly before the service? As you say, definately stick with the manufactureres extended warranty. Mine is a 2004 Prado. 3 year extended factory warranty cost $1200 at the time but it is piece of mind. Regards,Bob.


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Follow Up By: den57 - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:55

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:55
Hi Toyocrusa. Did you get a 3 year extended factory warranty or 3 year factory extended warranty.
One is backed by Toyota in Japan and the other is backed by Toyota Australia finance devision.
One continues the original warranty and the other is a different ball game.
If you have the extended factory warranty , read the paper work given to you at time of purchase. This is an insurence policy sounds good but read the paperwork carefully.
Being a Toyota you should not need it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 06:44

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 06:44
Hi den 57. It is the Toyota Japan factory warranty. So far it has covered stitching separation on the drivers seat (new seat cover) Period whine at 95k in rear diff. Passengers front power window motor failure. Still has 6 months left and as I said, it gives you piece of mind. Bob.

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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:27

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:27
I'd be getting a second opinion on a "blown" turbo. Did you notice any difference in power etc? If not it is very unlikely it is blown.
They don't just blow up unless something has entered it that shouldn't and broken blades etc.
You would certainly notice the lack of power if it wasn't working.
I've got a 1987 740 turbo Volvo which is still running the original turbo fitted at the factory, the next service will be 395,000 kms, it still goes well, uses no oil and sits on 11lb boost at full noise so I doubt whether your Prado's is "blown".
Take it to a diesel specialist and get it checked properly.
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Follow Up By: Ted G - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:30

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:30
I was told it had blown the seals not much other details.
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Follow Up By: Ted G - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:33

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:33
Also I have noticed a lack of power for some time, but it down to normal towing my caravan.
I got them to check it because I could not hear any change when pulling up hills.
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Ted
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Follow Up By: oldpop - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:39

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:39
If the seals are gone you would not see out the back for smoke

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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:41

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:41
Definately take it to a specialist.
There are not really any "seals" in the turbo, it gets way too hot for a normal seal.
They rely on very close tolerances to keep the oil from being sucked into the airstream and if there is excessive wear there will be excessive oil consumption and in an extreme a loss of power.
When a turbo is worn excessively the turbine blades will be hitting the housing and you will defiantely know something is wrong by the "screaming cat" noises from under the bonnet.
Signs of oil residue/mist in the inlet after the turbo are quite normal and to be expected. On the Volvo I mentioned earlier there is a drain plug in the bottom of the intercooler to enable oil that collects there to be drained. I've never got any more than a few mils after several years/50k.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:31

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:31
It is about $1000 to rebuild common turbos by turbo specialists.

They replace the seals etc and rebalance.

Turbos do have seals . They are like piston rings on either side of the bearing.

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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:21

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:21
Phillip
I was just trying to get away from what most people think of as seals, normal rubber oil seals.
I know that turbo's do have seals but just couldn't think of how to describe them, the piston ring anology does it well.
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Reply By: Secret Mens Business - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:32

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:32
Sounds fishy to me, Turbo's don't blow after 70,000kms. If there is damage to the turbo then you should make the dealer put a claim into Toyota. The issue of servicing the vehicle is also not relevant as the Turbo is not serviced anyhow. So once again advise the dealer you do not accept the outcome as it stands and want an out of warranty claim put into Toyota
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Follow Up By: Ted G - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 13:44

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 13:44
Toyota rejected a claim as it is out of Toyota warranty nearly 5 years old Toyota only 3 years.
Latest is the warranty insurance is going to send out an assessor on Thursday, probably look at it and say its stuffed.
This is after having to prove with Passport that I was overseas (which is a bit hard seeing they are now electronic strips in them and only show entry in to USA and return date to Australia), had to show itinary of my trip.
Next time I will insist on the genuine Toyota warranty.
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Ted
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Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:49

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:49
sounds like a typical mis-diagnosis from a stealer to me.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 22:20

Monday, May 17, 2010 at 22:20
"Blown" turbo at 80,000k........cough, cough..... I'd want to know exactly what's gone wrong with the turbo.

I had a 2002 Prado TD (same motor). Never had enough power. To cut along story short, the dealer's mechanic had accidentally left some rubber bits in the air filter - these got sucked in and broke fins off the turbo - some bits got thru the intercooler and into the motor, scoring the bores.

It took 10 weeks before an independant report found the dealer was at fault. Dealer kept the vehicle - it was near new, and I negotiated a new vehicle.
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Reply By: Member - Kevin B1 (WA) - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:07

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:07
How many hot shut downs has it had? For those who don't believe you have to cool the turbo, read your hand books.
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Reply By: pmacks - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:39

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:39
This can not be !! toyota not honouring a product after only 80,000 k's
gee whiz how about that !! At least Nissan where replacing or helping with costs to replace blown ZD30 motors up to 5 years after warranty expired?
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Follow Up By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:59

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:59
wouldnt honour mine after 61k and 5 years.......
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 11:13

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 11:13
LOL..! Should be in Friday Funnies..!
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