towing with hilux 3.0 td

I disagree on the torque with the diesel lux, they have plenty, yes towing does slow them down but the 80 series wouldn't be much better if any. I tow a 2 tonne boat with the lux and reckon it tows fantastic.

The low down torque when towing with a manual is pathetic for a diesel especially when on a slight incline. Auto's probably wouldn't notice as the revs are up and the turbo spooling straight away.

Pathetic..? Makes you wonder how they are nearly outselling Commodores at the moment.?

Have to disagree to, we constantly tow with a combined weight of 4500Kg and we don't have a problem...sure it upsets it a bit but we can still keep up to traffic and sit on 110Kph with ease.....even up hill.

It's not a race car!

Our Hilux with the campers goes more remote places in harsher environments then most people care to dream about.

The common rail issue is around but not as wide spread as some want you to believe. Yes bad fuel will destroy them but it's the same for most CRD engines.

We travel with people with factory turbo and non turbo 80 series and I know the fuel consumption is about 20% better then there's on good roads and about 3% worse on extreme off road.

On the bitumen running from Adelaide to Alice weighing 4500KG we averaged 14.3 liters per 100 kilo-meters sitting on 110Kph, the factory turbo 80 series weighing nearly the same averaged 17 liter per 100 Kilometers and a standard no turbo 80 series averaged 21 liters per 100 Kilometers..

Ours has be chipped that made a hugh difference in power and economy.

How do you go for fuel consumption towing the boat? I like to take the 6.5mtr ally north once or twice a year, 3000 to 4000k round trip.
How is the performance top end for overtaking etc?
I am looking at an auto......

My obsevations are from real world experience in bog stock d4d's ie 300,000km in the last 4 years in conditions from good highway to bush tracks, black mud bogs, sand and bulldust that comes over the bonnet like a bow wave, flooded roads and more throughout queensland.
If anyone has to spend another few grand on a vehicle like chips, exhausts etc just to justify spending a heap of money on something that will never last as long, be as reliable or as comfortable as their current vehicle or really couldn't do the job needed without the extras, really needs to focus on what their actual needs are.

Top end is not too bad but off idle is the problem especially when towing in stop start traffic.
Take the 6.5m tinny loaded with fuel and whatever else you can think of down to the local yota dealer and hook it onto a demo and drive for an hour up and down hills. The 4 cyl engines don't have anywhere the compression breaking of the big 6 either.

They (hilux) are geared quite high 2500rpm at 120kph so you will use more fuel in 5th gear as the turbo won't be at it's most efficient.

If I have offended anyone then I apologise, I see too many dissapointed people towing with what are little engines with a to great towing capacity.

Cheers
Dave

Towing is just one factor of many. I regardless of how often I will tow, I just want to be sure the hilux can do what I want. Overall fuel consumption is a factor and it will be a vehicle that we will want to keep for a few years.
The cruiser round town and highway comb uses approx 16L - 100km, towing the boat ups it to around 25L / 100km (granted is is a 6.5m ally)

The reason for this vehicle is so I dont have to take seats in and out. The restraint point bolt holes are there so that is no issue for me. Is there any other reason it may not be suitable? I will have a canopy and the drawers will be changed over so there is no issue with cargo space.

Are the bolt holes for child restraints?? The restraint anchor points I saw (on an Opposite Lock display dual cab hilux) were large steel plates running vertically from behind the back seats to above the rear window - I would look further into this if I were you.... Apart from that the only other resaon I decided against the Hilux was it would cost another couple of thousand on top of the cost of the car for a canopy for the back.. I think they would be a much better and enonomical car to tow than the 80!!

the restraint points are... centre - at top of the centre of the seat, easy access, the side points are on the floor so you need to buy the point and anchor in your self. Will need an extension strap but that is no big issue, will make getting the seat in and out easier.
The vehicles I am looking at already have canopies on, there is not much difference in price of second hand hiluxes regardless if they have a canopy or not.

She is 3 months at the moment and we will hopefully have another on the way within 12 months.

Cam are you thinking of upgrading?

Hi Dave,
Mine is up for replacement in November, so I need to think about what to do. All depends on the economy at this stage. See what happens.
Cam

You have the time right, August seems to be the time being talked about and then a rough ride for the next 12 months after that.

will be going for an auto hilux, the turbo 80 uses 16/100ish dry and up to 25/100 towing the big boat. The camper I intend to tow will put it somewhere around the 19-21/100 mark. So far the lux looks around the 14-15/100 towing. I will gas and or chip so I will have plenty of power if needed.
The boat is being sold this year so I only have one more trip north with it, it is staying up there.

wow. that's long sentence!

nuther thing to consider

an 05 hilux is roughly between 30,000 to 35000 with aver. 70,000 to 130,000 km
even on generous side you get 15,000 for the 80 (most go 10,000 to 15,000)

That leave 15,000 to 20,000 to upgrade plus maybe another 10,000 to customise


80 series - new reco motor $4000 (can get cheaper)
reco injectors and pump $2500 (high side)
reco gearbox $2500
front and rear reco diffs $3000
rebuilt front knuckles and suspension $4000 (high side)

You have just spent the same $16000 min outlay to upgrade on your 80 and the drive train and running gear is all replaced and would do any trip with no hassles.
Go the 80 a much cheaper and better option to go with what you know rather than buy something which may have been someone elses lemon, did that once only happened on one but bought a car with 70K on the clock by 80K the motor went then was just one thing after another. buying a car is a lottery.

The 80 has 1hdt with 150k
all driveline checked and maintained, all controll arm bushes just replaced, cooling system 6 months old etc.Someone will get an absolute bargain with this vehicle. Some of the accessories willbe taken off and sold separatley and others will go onto the hilux.
The 80 will have th etwin wheel carrier, dual lr tanks (340ltrs in total) bullbar, stratos eats, console fridge, dual batts, snorkell, dvd and all sorts of other extras that cant be changed over. As for how much to sell, I am a little ambitious but am hoping for 15 - 20. Accessories are always a good negotiation.