1000 watt generators

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 09:37
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I know this may be a typical ford/holden argument, and I apoligize in advance for opening the can of worms.
But, I can get the Honda eu10i or the Yamaha EF1000is for the same $1399 with a bag of goodies.

I've read a few different things about both, neither really having bad points, some claim to have better points.

So in the real world, comparing only these 2 gensets, is there any real difference, and what would/do most people here think of or use?

Thanks for everything so far :)
Troy
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 09:50

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 09:50
Had the same decision last year, went for the Yamaha for a couple of reasons.
Was told by two third parties unconnected with either vendor's that
1/ the Yamaha was one generation newer than the Honda.
2/ The biggie as far as I was concerned was the cost of spares Compare the cost of major parts and there is no contest. Honda has traditionally gouged the customer on spare parts on everything from lawnmowers to cars, I know I've been caught before. Their is one bit on the honda that does seem to fail whether it be from operator error or inherent fault, think it was inverter or something, with the honda it is cheaper to buy a new gennie where the same bit on the Yamaha was $120 or thereabouts.
My Yamaha seems to run longer on a tank than a friends Honda.
Both will do the job quietly ;-)))
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Follow Up By: Spana - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 09:52

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 09:52
Thanks Ozhumvee,
as an extra spanner in the works, the honda has a 4 year warrenty, the yamaha only 2, would this change your opinion at all?
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:15

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:15
Probably not, at the time i got mine it was the other way around, 2 to 3 and the Yamaha was cheaper.
I forgot the other difference the Honda is an alloy cylinder bore and the Yamaha has a cast/harder? one so won't wear as quickly
It's six of one and half a dozen of the other, both will do the job. As I said the biggest factor for me was the cost of spares and a gennie will last for a lot longer than the warranty period when used for private use.
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Follow Up By: wildbill05 - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:26

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:26
I had no trouble getting parts for my 15 (at least)yo Yammie EF600 and my small engine repairer/seller reckons they are better.
He doesn't sell them - just his observations from a long career fixing small engines.
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Follow Up By: Goldfind (Dunsborough) - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:26

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:26
Spana,

I have had a 1kv Honda for 9 years and have never had a problem with it, it was expensive (about $1200 from memory) but it always starts and is very quiet. We do not use it for long periods as our van is self contained on solar power. The camps we go on are usually with a club and many do not like generators running at night. So the quieter generators do have a lot going for them.
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Reply By: OREJAP - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 11:41

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 11:41
I was looking (have been for awhile now) at the Honda & Yamaha 2's. I have found out the following. If you buy a Honda 2 (as my friend did recently) he bought it for the farm under the auspices of his ABN...he got a huge discount of $50 off the price. He later found out that because of the ABN on the paperwork Honda only gave him 6mths warranty instead of 4 years. Honda deemed the unit was being used for commercial applications!! If he is running the Honda and turns on his Central heating!!! Sorry being rude...his a/cond or heating it trips the Honda & it will not start. He now turns everything off starts the Honda and then turns things back on. I also looked at the 2400 Yammie which is a great unit and will run everything a caravaner would want however it is 10 Kg heavier than the Honda 2 & is a bulky unit making it a difficult item to store. Honda and Yamaha operate at the same noise levels & I believe the yammie is more frugal on the fuel side but not by much. As discussed in this post the Yamaha has 2 years warranty & don't care if you purchase by ABN whereas Honda has 4 years & according to my mate they do alter the warranty if ABN used. Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Spana - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 11:47

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 11:47
Thanks Orejap, very usefull info. I'll be using my ABN to purchase also.
I did note that it said 4 year or 1 year commercial, but didn't think much of that.
Thanks
Troy
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Reply By:- Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 19:35

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 19:35
Have a look at the continious rated and surge ratings on the two units. Dunno what the yamaha is but the EU20i is 1600VA continious and 2000VA surge so just remember that with air con or cycling systems such as heating/cooling. The EU10i is 900/1000 so its not that much of an issue as the EU20i.

I have 4 yamaha outboards and a honda EU10i genset. And having been in marine spare parts they are the same retail price for both brands roughly.

With all due respect, Honda is right to put a 6 month ABN warranty clause in. One of the instances I have seen an EU generator used is the coffee stand (Diesel's if anyone knows it) outside Queensland Parliament/QUT Gardens Point that runs from 8am to 5pm monday to friday in all weathers and has done for the three years Ive been at QUT finishing postgrad shoite. This example was the tipping point for me to get an EU.
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Reply By: paulnsw - Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 06:51

Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 06:51
Honda EU10i
small nearly impossible to fill fuel cap
aluminium bore
NO fuel tap and constantly stinks of petrol if you have to carry in vehicle
tiny fuel tank capacity

Yamaha EF1000iS
large fuel cap easy to fill
cast iron bore
fuel tap
fuel tank capacity nearly twice Honda EU10i

Yamaha is larger engine, does 1,000rpm less speed, quieter than Honda if you check the specs, all controls on front. Yamaha 1000iS has 20% better starting capacity than Honda.

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Reply By: ross - Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 07:48

Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 07:48
Ive had my Yamaha 1000 3 years or so now,always starts 1st time and is so quiet I still marvel at it.
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