What happened to this invention?
Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 15:48
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Member - Mark G Gulmarrad
i'm guessing the big oil companies bought the idea and shelved it?
more than likely.
Reply By: Rangiephil - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 16:04
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 16:04
Google brown's gas.
Regard sPhilip A
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 17:27
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 17:27
He is using Brown's gas technology from about 1930.
I think "Brown" was an Aussie.
The idea is gaining traction particulaly in the US.
Ian
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Reply By: Tonyfish#58 - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 17:27
Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 17:43
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 17:43
On reading through the pages on the link it sounds like its aptly named
Brown as in Bull***.
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 18:03
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 18:03
I think BP recently purchased the technology but are using a mixture of oil & water. They are very extremely busy at the moment trying to shelve it!! LOL
But seriously, in this day & age, if someone were to come up with a new you beaut money saver for us, the general public, then it would be pretty hard to keep it quiet. Sorry, I don't think the water bloke has anything to offer. JMO. Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 18:55
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 18:55
In 1987 I was in Hawaii and the public transport company was called "The Bus Co". The buses I saw in the main streets where all running on HHO - the same gas this guy is on about.
After catching one bus I was standing on the kerb as the bus took of and there was a cloud of steam coming out the exhaust instead of the usual diesel you get to smell after the bus takes off. On the back of the bus a big sign say "This bus runs on Water".
Since then I see BMW have release in Europe their hydrogen car. I will not be release in Australia as we have no hydrogen refill stations.
From what I have read on this subject over the years the biggest issue with running a car on HHO is the expense of converting water (H2O) into gas (HHO). It has in the past required large amounts of electricity that meant is was cheaper just to run the car on fuel.
This guy states he has a patented method of creating HHO gas which is probably how he is trying to sell the product.
Running a car on HHO gas is just about the same as running on LPG.
Be good for the planet if they could do it but me thinks the Oil companies will stop it.
David
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 19:33
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 19:33
every one I know who fitted one doesnt have it any more
its BULL***
you cant get something for nothing
when are some people going to learn this....just look at Sarich orbital...its now ( the comapny) last I heard is all about fuel injection...????....what happened to the orbital engine????
now what we really want is 4wd's driven by nuclear reactors.....
hydrogen may work and may be the thing we really grasp but can it be viable for a car out in the simpson?...i dont know the answer but browns gas doesnt work
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 20:04
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 20:04
As far as I know GM in the states bought the rights to the orbital engine for $1mUS soon after sarich developed it...and shelved it.
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Follow Up By: Rob! - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:43
Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:43
The earth doesn't have any great deposits of hydrogen. So the hydrogen would have to made... with electricity, which in Australia is going to come from dirty coal. So unless someone travels to the sun to brings some hydrogen back, its use in cars is neither a clean nor an efficient enregy source.
If you were to create the required electricity within car, (to split water) then you would need another fuel source to do that (ie petrol or diesel). There is always inefficiency when changing energy states and with the small scale electricity production (in the car) you would have a very ineficient system with massive losses. The energy required to create the electricity would be a number of times greater then the energy released from the hydrogen.
The fact that the bus had steam coming out of the exhaust, and not water or ice, shows that energy was being wasted and that it's not a perfect system.
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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 19:40
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 19:40
And, of course, the Govt will not allow it to happen until such time as it's developed a system of taxing every conceivable source of water.
Cheers.....Lionel.
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Follow Up By: qubert - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 19:50
Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 19:50
i made one. it took about 100 amps to run to make enough gas to ' supplement' a landcruiser engine ( no hho system makes enough gas to run an engine soley on this gas, its only a supplement ). wasnt worth it after the load it put on my alternator........ considering a 6 cylinder engine uses 10000litres of air for evey litre of petrol.....
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Reply By: gbc - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:44
Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:44
Anyone tried dry fuel vapour?
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