Identify this fish please

Submitted: Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:15
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Can someone on here please tell me what this fish is? Sooty grunter maybe???Image Could Not Be Found

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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:18

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:18
Where did you catch it Heather...at first glance looks a bit like a greenback Tailor.

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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:26

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:26
Hi Fred,

In a freshwater dam - Theresa Creek, near Clermont. Arent tailor saltwater fish?

35cms in length.

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Reply By: Madfisher - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:30

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:30
Silver Perch, the forked tail is a give away. They also have close relos in the lake Eyre system and northern Australia.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:33

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:33
They are great fighters Heather, one of my ambitions is to catch one on a fly, In Windermere NSW they grow up to 4kg.
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:41

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:41
Pete, now we know the location, I'm with you LOL BTW when ya latch onto a 4kg specimen, on fly, let us all know how ya got on mate :-)))
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:49

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 20:49
Hi Pete,

I guess they are good to eat to and I shouldn't have released it!!!
Oh well....I can always try to hook it again tomorrow. Yes, it was good fun to catch.

I also caught a yellowbelly - approx 40cms - which was fun. Released him too after I took his pic - arent I kind? or silly??? lol

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated

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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 21:04

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 21:04
G`day Heather,
I think they are protected in NSW so you obeyed the law without knowing it.
They`re not very good to eat anyway.


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Follow Up By: Honky - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 21:10

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 21:10
I think you would find they are good to eat.
They are bred on fish farms.

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 21:55

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 21:55
Heather you are allowed to keep them in NSW lakes , but they must be returned in rivers.
Scrubby how are you, I like silvers about a kilo to eat if not to weedy tasting.
Fred in Nov last year I was fly fishing Windy with a large wooly buggar, I had retrieved most of the fly line when I got and unbelievable hit. I only had about 5 feet of fly line out plus the leader anyhow I was to to slow to react and the 12lb tippet broke.
Anyhow about a week later a old fishing mate of mine pulls this large Wooly buggar out of his pocket and asks me if it is one of mine, which it was even if it was a bit the worst for wear. Perplexed I asked him where he found it, O stuck Under the jaw of a 9lb Silver Perch he replied. You can imagine my reply, as I has only shown him my hotspot a few weeks before.
Anyhow I am going to get one next year, I just have to learn to ignore those 5kg Goldens
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 18:05

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 18:05
Honky, others & Pete,

IMHO if you reckon they are good to eat you must be hard up for a feed of fish. LOL

Then again some people eat European Carp and Trout and say they are good also. LOL

Sorry but Silver Bream, Carp or Trout are not for me, might as well sprinkle a bit of salt on a handful of mud from a stagnant swamp,the taste would be about the same. LOL

But try me on Murray Cod or Yellow Belly, that`s a different story.

Gee I hope I haven`t upset anyone. LOL LOL

SCrubby

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 19:35

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 19:35
Scrubby we have a lake up here that is full of trout(overstocked really) and you are right they taste like(well you know lol). But a few ks upsteam their is a clear fertile lake where the trout look like Alantic Salmon, fight like altantic Salmon, and Taste nearly as good as Alantics. Got one over 2kgs last weekend, and after I smoked it I nearly caused a riot as everyone was fighting over it.Silvers are the same, out of some waters they taste terrible, but give me young .5 to 1kg fish from Wyangala or Burrendong and I would swap a Golden for one as they are less oily. They are a very long lived fish and get very tough and rank when old.
Have you tried Bass Scrubby
O and the Cod out of Windermere taste awfull, so it does depend on the enviroment they live in I guess
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 20:15

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 20:15
Pete,

My favourite fish is atlantic salmon or ocean trout - I reckon I could eat it every day and not get sick of it. I suppose the location of this clear fertile lake is a closely guarded secret!

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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 21:06

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 21:06
G`day Pete,
Only having a stir mate, you know me, can`t help myself. LOL
Of course you are right, it depends on the water and the food they eat as to the taste.
An old bloke who had a tackle shop told me once that if you bleed the trout straight away,then prepare it by laying slabs of butter inside then some seasoning then some ?? and then some ??? and then some ???? and then wrap it in foil and bake it in the oven and then serve it covered in ???? It is delicious.
I said.... " bleep Bill you could do the same to a crow and it would be delicious"
Geeeez I thought he was going to jump the counter. LOL

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 21:15

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 21:15
Good day Heather, Well their is good news and bad news. The good news is it lake Wallace close to Lithgow. We call it Wang dam.I caught a 10lb Brown trout out of it a few years ago which now lives on my lounge room wall. The bad news it is a trophy fishery which means they are hard to catch, but not impossible.
When My wife and I where first married I took her their on numerous occassions with little success. On this one Trip Sal was wading having a big whing about their being no fish in the lake, when an huge trout smashed a mudeye right in front of her, and nearly swamped her. That made her a lot kneener and she went by her self and proudly came home with a 3kg rainbow.
I believe the bait fishos do well on power bait.
Atlantic salmon is very rich, we often buy some from Aldi.
If you want any more info pm me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 12, 2010 at 04:50

Saturday, Jun 12, 2010 at 04:50
Thanks Pete,

Well...as I am a novice, there's not much point in me even tryiing to fish there. Maybe you could just catch them and send them to me.lol.

I havent even managed to land my first barramundi yet - have lost three right on the bank during the past couple of days after they showed me how big they were too! They are loving the live shrimp I keep feeding them!
Hopefully I will be more successful today as I am becoming obsessed!
We are only releasing them anyway but I would have loved a photo with the biggest one just to send to our son who is a mad keen bass fisherman when he's in Oz.

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Saturday, Jun 12, 2010 at 18:06

Saturday, Jun 12, 2010 at 18:06
You gave me a good laugh Heather. But every successful fisherman That I know are obsessed, I think that is the secret. If I catch heaps of fish I lose interest, but lose a big one and I will be back first opportunity.
If You get down this way It would be my pleasure to take you fishing. My wife also flyfishes and is so competive she will not stop for a coffee unless I also stop fishing, she is worried that I might get one while she is out of the water lol.
You are way ahead of me on Barra, have yet to catch one. As I get older I seem to be working more hours not less, and never get more then a couple of weeks off at one time.So have had no big trips up North.
I am friends with Rod Harrison and even have a standing invitation to fish Lake Awonga with him, imagine a metre long Barra on a fly rod. I don't think My heart would take it. Anyway I have not even been able to take up his generous offer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 12, 2010 at 21:51

Saturday, Jun 12, 2010 at 21:51
Hey Pete,

I finally did it and caught a 58cm barra today - even have photos to prove it.
We put him back in the water afterwards to swim away!
I am a very happy person tonight and the pics have already been emailed to our son who is working on Cayman Island in the Caribbean.

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 20:52

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 20:52
Congratulations Heather you are one up on me. We went to Wallace today, I never touched a fish and Sal had one take. It was to good a day would you believe, trout like a bit of wind and cloud.
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 06:17

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 06:17
Heather,

Sorry to hijack your thread.
While on this topic what do you guys think this is.
Caught in the Darling in Kinchegar NP, NSW. It was released after the photo.
Been some argument as to whether its a Silver or Golden Perch.



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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:35

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:35
Richard,

it appears to be a 'Smiley Faced Blue Tee Shirted Yobbo'.

Very common in those parts, a little tough unless you have good teeth.

I notice you started to have a munch on it's thumb but pleased you decided to release it. I reckon you would have spent days pickin' bits of that beard out of your teeth......lol.


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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:54

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:54
LOL.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 13:34

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 13:34
Golden Perch, otherwise known as Yellowbelly. They change colour to suit their enviroment, in clear water they are much darker with a beatifull golden stomach.Silver perch have a very small mouth and a forked tail.
Heather you where not to far wrong when you called it for a grunter, as silvers are part of the grunter family, and often grunt after being caught.
Great to see you both released your fish, but nothering wrong with keeping a feed. Allthough I cannot bring myself to kill a Murray Cod anymore, and Mrs Fisher would kill me if I did.
Have no problem keeping a feed of trout though
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 05:36

Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 05:36
Thanks Pete.
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