What is the largest CCA battery that fits in a 200 L/C t/d

I am told the Land cruiser 200 T/D needs 700cca for starting and the standard batteries are approx 400 cca each.

Rather than a third battery, I was hoping to use the current battery positions for one larger cca and one house battery with a "redarc" or similar to control.

Has any one done similar and what size in cca and amp hours can fit?
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Reply By: Ianw - Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 21:35

Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 21:35
The Century N70ZZL4WD is an excellent 700 CCA battery. However it is 47mm longer and 2mm wider than the NS70 (545 CCA) which is possibly fitted to yours. Maybe you can make it fit?

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Ian
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Follow Up By: Bushtrek - Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 21:48

Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 21:48
I've got these in mine, 2 of them in a 100 Series HDJ100R.

Supercharge Gold

They are Calcium/Calcium, so I use a 7 stage smart chargere every 2 months to fully recharge them (to 100%, not just 70% ) and to ensure they are fully desulphated.

Have had them in for 30 months now. The previous OE batteries lasted 6 and a half years.
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Follow Up By: carlsp - Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52

Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52
Do not use these code numbers adn the post are different on a 200 than 100. Idea is good however.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 15:45

Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 15:45
I have been using those batteries (century 4wd) for over 5 years, only replaced them recently for safetys sake

I had my nose under a 200s bonnet the other day and im pretty sure I noticed they had more than enough room for bigger batteries in the standard trays
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Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 22:07

Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010 at 22:07
Hello pling,

how about 690CCA, 800CA, 50Ah AGM spiral wound (starts a tank under partial state of charge conditions).

256Lx169Wx224H 18.5 kg

Note that starter motors have an inherent current limit of around 250 amps.

The 'overkill' in CCA is for wet cell batteries. Because once these get discharged, their internal resistance increases fast, dropping a lot of voltage inside the battery.
Thus, a higher rating in CCA offers more leeway.

On the other hand, spiral wound pure lead/tin keeps its low internal resistance down to a very low SOC.
You could say that a 50% discharged pure lead/tin spiral wound battery offers the same cranking power as a 100% charged wet cell battery of twice the size.
This is because the active surface area of the spiral wound battery is greater by quite a margin.

Best regards, Peter
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 08:46

Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 08:46
Yep - as above, I too had a Yuasa-Century 700CCA battery in the Jackaroo a few years back - seemed to be a quality product - lasted me a few years and still in there when sold. Most 12" batteries as I recall are in the 600 CCA's. My LC100 has 2 crankers and an aux - I'm going to try and change it to one and one next time battery issues arise.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 08:54

Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 08:54
Easy to do and a lot have done it.

Takes a couple of hours and some cabling

Can supply pictures of installation if you are interested

The factory batteries are only about 400CCA each


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Reply By: youngharry52 - Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:38

Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:38
Hi pling,

I have just done this with a 200 TTD. I used an optima red 850CCA (I think) starter on the passenger side and a supercharge 105?? A/H on the driver side with solenoid. Got the batteries from battery world and was wired up by ARB. was NOT an easy job as the toyota batteries have reverse poles to each other and the existing cables only allow for this setup.

Regards

Chris
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Reply By: CJ - Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 13:28

Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010 at 13:28
Hi,

For what it is worth, the 200 starts easily* with only one of it's two batteries.

I simply put the largest size battery in as cranker, and split the batteries and put the largest size AGM as aux battery. No probs whatsoever

* I live in NQld so we do not have freezing nights. But, in talking to others who have done the same from Canberra and Melb, they do not have problems either

CJ
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 14:15

Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 14:15
I have split the batteries in my 200 with a redarc and while I used the original batteries initially, I have since changed to Century wet cells.

While a single original battery started the vehicle fine, my replacement radio would lose its channel settings - this indicated that the starting voltage was dropping too low. So while one OEM battery works, its really only borderline and as the batteries age I reckon it wouldn't be too long before you would struggle to start on a cold day.

So, I have used a century wetcell starting battery for the cranking battery and a hybrid wet cell for the aux battery. I considered using AGM's but the 200's alternator voltage and underbonnet temperatures do not make this a good combination IMHO.

What I have works well and I am happy I went down this path.

Cheers

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Reply By: Member - The Crow (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 16:16

Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 16:16
I have 2 x RV/Marine 670cc batteries Model number DCM27SMF both have a reserve capacity 160 and a 95 AMP hrs each separated by a Redarc controller and I have a jump start button under the dash.
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