l/cruiser 200 series gxl t/d

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I am going to the mitchell plateau areas and wondered whether the dunlop grandtrek a22's will be ok?
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 14:18

Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 14:18
If you are happy enough to use passenger rated tyres on an off-road vehicle that will weigh over 3 tonnes when loaded, then the A22's will be fine. But if you would like the security that a LT (light truck) rated tyre gives to a vehicle, then perhaps you may want to consider a more suitable tyre - I know I did !!!

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Reply By: Member - The Crow (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 16:04

Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 16:04
We did the Mitchell Plateau in 08 with the standard tyres on our 76 series but at least they were AT's just kept the speed down and had no problems.
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Reply By: Tractor - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 19:14

Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 19:14
Thanks Captain and Crow.

The reason for the question is that I am struggling to find legal fitting tyre sizes (in QLD) for the standard 17 inch rims on the gxl 200 series cruiser. The only two tyres in the OE 285/65/17 sizes are the standard dunlops and bridgestone d694 (not LT). From what I understand and have been told I can't go up to 285/70/17 in QLD but can go down to but am reluctant to go smaller to 265/70/17.

What tyres are people with 200 series cruisers on 17 inch rims driving? Keeping in mind I am heading to Gibb River Rd, Mitchell Plateau and further. I also tow a 2.5t off road caravan (obviously not to all of these places though).

Thanks in hope, Tractor
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Follow Up By: Tractor - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:40

Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:40
any help forthcoming? tractor
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:23

Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:23
The difference in diameter from 285/65/17 to 285/70/17 is only 14.2mm.
Can't see how this is illegal in QLD as it is within the +/-15mm allowable change in rolling diameter.
I suspect others have gone to 285/70/17 with no issues
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Follow Up By: chisel - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:35

Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:35
Isn't the overall diameter difference about 28mm? 802 vs 830mm.
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 22:36

Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 22:36
A ~28mm overall diameter change is a ~14mm height change :)

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Captain
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 06:25

Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 06:25
Forgot to add that I have 285/70R17 BFG TA's and reckon they are a great all rounder. I took off my A22's right at the start, do not understand why they put passenger rated tyres on a 3 tonne truck thats marketed as the "King of the Off Road" ?

I too was planning on the GRR, Mitchell Plateau, Cape Leveque etc... and thats one of the reasons I changed tyres. I aslo added a snorkel, amongst many other things, good insurance IMHO.

While one may make it on the A22's, I reckon its all about safety margins and insurance. There is simply no comparison between a LT and passenger rated tyre and when going on the type of roads mentioned above, why would you even attempt it on P rated tyres? Ask any experienced long distance tourer about what is THE most common problem anyone has and the answer is tyres - yet how many people try and see if they can make it on older or poorly rated tyres?

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Captain
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:44

Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:44
Yes, 28mm, not 14mm (how is it said these days- "my bad"!). :)

I wouldn't worry about the change in tyre size for QLD in your case. You would hardly notice the difference visually.

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Follow Up By: chisel - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:04

Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:04
Not visually no, but technically they are illegal.
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:37

Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:37
Technically I agree, but that's where it all gets quite pedantic. :)
Technically, that would also render many 4x4's illegal on the road (e.g 31x10.5r15's on a hilux (up to 20005 mod) are outside the allowable increase in diameter limits (30x9.5R15 should be used). How many of these are getting around....

I guess it's a personal question of managing risk. I have never heard of a case where insurance was knocked back because of a tyre being 10mm over diameter. Depends how much attention the vehicle draws - if it is blinged up, lifted high, has 10 spotties etc, then it will no doubt be looked at closer than a bog std car with tyres appropriate to the cars use (per Capt above).


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Reply By: Fatso - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:05

Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:05
I reckon the standard tyres will get you up there & back if you load your vehicle appropriately & travel at the appropriate speed.
Incorrect speed & load is what kills tyres.
If you choose not to travel at the correct weight your car is designed for than you better upgrade the load rating on your tyres.
Just be careful that when you upgrade the load rating you keep the same or higher speed rating.
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Reply By: Tractor - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 13:00

Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 13:00
thanks everyone for your input please keep it up it is a very complex problem. i am going to ask my insurer re the different height. thank you tractor
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