Rip off gas prices
Submitted: Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:53
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Member - warren h (SA)
Hi all,
I see there has been a few posts on the cost of bottled gas, I shall relate my recent experience. Exchanged my 9kgs bottle at a
caltex servo 37.50, previously 34.50. damn I thought this stuff is getting expensive. Later in the day went to Rays Outdoor to look at some fold up chairs, they had a
sign up saying 9kg gas bottles refilled for 24.50, I called over an assistant to ascertain this was correct, he said it was certainly so and added they give you a card and every 5th bottle free. I told him what I had payed that morning and he said did I also realize I was only getting 8.5 kilos from the
caltex, what a rip off!!
Now I do not mind paying what ever the going price is but if one place can sell the stuff for nearly half the price of the other something stinks and its not the gas. I am based in
Adelaide at the moment.
What are peoples feelings on this?
Cheers Warren
Reply By: Member - mazcan - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:24
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:24
hi warren h
contact consumer affairs or what ever it's
called in your state
i'm sure they cant sell/exchange a 9kg gas bottle if i'ts not full under the fair trading act
but beware of the fact the assistant may be telling furpthy's
to sell there own product ???????
same as fuel bowsers have to be checked by a regulatory body
consumer affairs should be able to give you advice on this and direct you as to what course of action to take
there may be a body who will come out and
test the suspect under filled bottles if the sales assistants facts are true???????
there are the devious and cheats in all systems you know especially where sales are involved
cheers
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Follow Up By: dbish - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:59
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:59
Hi Warren, Here in SA Swap&Go cylinders are marked as 8.5Kg & are filled byweight on scales that shut of the filling pump automaticly, they arenot filled by the bleed method. Daryl
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Reply By: rocco2010 - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 13:54
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 13:54
Gidday
There was a parliamentary inquiry into LPG pricing in WA a few years ago, sparked by the disparity in the prices motorists pay here compared to other states. WA is much more expensive and there is no competition between the suppliers.
As with all things relating to the price of fuels the inquiry went nowhere.
It also moved over into the prices charged for gas in a bottle, particularly in rural and regional areas where gas is used extensively for domestic cooking and heating and received evidence that a large gas bottle for the house could vary in price by a huge margin in towns only a relatively short distance apart.
Basically the inquiry found that the different distributors, many of them monopoly suppliers in their area, charged what they felt the market will bear.
Obviously the swap bottle people do the same thing and you pay a hefty premium for the convenience of being able chuck the bottle in the car and swap it over at the servo at the same time as you fuel the car. Going to
BCF, Rays, Bunnings or wherever and waiting while they do the job isn't as easy.
Like someone says above, it always pays to
shop around.
Cheers
Rocco
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 14:07
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 14:07
Hi Warren
We alway get our own refilled, and there was no issue with them fitting securely into the brackets. Each new bottle we have purchased has been marginally different in diameter. Gas and gas bottle costs came to the fore with us when travelling last year, and our bottles 'date expired'. New ones were very expensive in more remote locations, so we purchased an empty when we found a better price. While in Cessnock NSW, advertised prices of 9 kg fills along the main road varied from 16.95 to 19.95. However Murphy struck when we ran out of gas, and the older bottle leaked gas when turned on, after we had left Cessnock. Next town was
Mudgee, where the two outlets quoted $34 odd and $33 - twice the price! Hardly a remote area, and more than we had ever paid before. Competition does a lot of good for us, but when travelling in rural and remote areas, we pretty
well have to pay the price, as we do with fuel and other commodities.
On travel forums BFC stores get a favourable mention with gas refill pricing.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 14:09
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 14:09
Or should that be
BCF stores - OOPS
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 15:22
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 15:22
Bought an 'old' out of date 9Kg bottle some months ago for just a few $$, took it to a busy Bunning and "swapped" it for a near new (2009) bottle and gas for $32 ??
Now have 3 as new bottles, instead of 3 obsolete bottles, I just continue to get them refilled until they get near the expiry date, then swap them for new ones, because I believe the guys filling them fill them more completely than the 'swap an go' companies do.
Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: The Landy - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 17:14
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 17:14
I think the price disparity has as much to do whether the supplier see it as a service, a money making venture, or a really don’t want to do it but need to as a service to customers and price accordingly.
But life is full of these types of disparities, anyone shopping at Woolworth’s or Coles would now that.
What about airline tickets, you fly on the same plane for either half as much, or twice as much as someone sitting next to you.
And let’s not even talk about 4WD drive after-market accessories.
Good weekend to all as Beer O’Clock rolls around,
Cheers, The Landy
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Follow Up By: Member - warren h (SA) - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 18:04
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 18:04
I think you have made some excellent points but I dont think a little bit of jumping up and down about it hurts and its nice to get things of your chest even if its a wasted exercise, but having said that all of the responses have been informative and entertaining.
On a separate note had look at your profile picture and am impressed by your set up.
Cheers Warren.
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 19:41
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 19:41
And nothing wrong with jumping up and down....I was b eing a bit tongue in cheek!
Thanks for the note on The Landy.....
Cheers, The Landy
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 01:18
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 01:18
"What about airline tickets, you fly on the same plane for either half as much, or twice as much as someone sitting next to you."
mostly because you accept the risk of being able (or not) of changing you travel date. (Full fare, Flexi, promotional, etc
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Reply By: Pushy - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 08:29
Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 08:29
In reference to the above posts and as a retailer I offer the following comments.
LPG or camping gas is a different gas to car gas and the liquid natural gas we sell to China. China is getting the gas so cheap because they are purchasing billions of litres of the stuff.
The same applies for retailers the more you buy the cheaper it gets.
From my experience those selling for around $20 would be basically selling at cost just to get people into the store hoping to make other sales. Anything over $30 is a bit excessive.
When a cylinder is stated as say 9 kg this is only a rough guide.The actual amount of gas you get depends on things such as the air temp and the pressure in the filling tank. You will generally get more gas by refilling at a servo or hardware rather than by doing a swap. The swap cylinders are filled by a machine and to ensure safety are filled by weight to the 8.5 kg level.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 01:21
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 01:21
I think you will find that in many country towns the gas bottle is filled from the same tank as the cars.
Absolutely correct about the chinkies though.
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