16" v 17" Tyres
Submitted: Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 18:33
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EvertonJones
Hi All
I am looking at upgrading the GQ to a GU and was wondering the pro's and cons of 17"wheels.
Our camper has 16". So do I change them to 17" or put 16" on the GU.
I like to have all the tyres interchangeable.
Cheers
Everton
Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:24
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:24
5 years ago, the 16" would win - they were the cheaper and stronger tyres.
But the price of 17" has come down (less than $300 now) and the availability much better, so you can go either way. If my vehicle had 17's, I'd put new tyres on the vehicle and put the old 17" tyres on the trailer.
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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:44
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:44
You would consider keeping the 17s if you wanted to keep the alloy wheels. I didn't and have used 16s all round. I use Nissan steel wheels now as you can't get the right offset in aftermarket wheels.
I figure there's more likely to be spare 16s out there when needed.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:25
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:25
hear hear- I endorse that perspective of Phil G's
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:30
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:30
Gday Peter,
Yep, good considerations. I'm not sure of the cost of the genuine Nissan 17" mags, or their availability second hand.
Regarding the offset difference - I think the Genuine Nissan 17" wheels are -13mm but I'm not sure of the exact numbers of the aftermarket 17x8 - I'd guess zero offset. Using the aftermarket wheels usually widens the track by about 1/2 inch each side compared to genuine Nissan - When used on a trailer this won't matter if the axle length is suitable. If you were to use the trailer wheels as emergency spares, then half an inch won't matter. Plenty of Landcruiser offset aftermarket wheels are being used on Patrols.
Next option is whether you can use the 17x7.5 steel Toyota Prado wheels on a Patrol - can buy them fairly cheap from Toyota. The big issue here is likely to be the diameter of the centre hole - if the centre hole was machined out by 1-2mm, then I'd guess they would go on fine, but I have not tried this, so would proceed with caution and a tape measure!
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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:55
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:55
Phil,
Last time I looked the genuine 17 alloys were very expensive. I keep
mine in the shed for fitting ack on when (if) I sell.
The Patrol 16 wheels are +10 and the usual offset for the steel aftermarket wheels is -13. I get a much better ride with the Nissan steel wheels. With the latest mmodel GU it's easy to end up scrubbing the tyres on the front mudflap and rear flare so I suggest Everton checks offsets carefully. I'd stay as close to genuine NIssan as possible.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:48
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 19:48
It doesn't really matter. As long as the rolling radii of the 16inch TYRES is the same or similar to the 17 inch TYRES you can use the Trailer 16 as a second spare and vice versa. Size of the wheel is irrelevant.
As long as the PCD is the same as I think it is and the 16 will fit over the GU brakes, and isn't the reason for same tyre package to have extra spares?
Regards Philip A
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Reply By: Biglinz - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:04
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 20:04
I wondered whether to go to 16" when I got my 06 GU as
well. Finally decided to stay with the 17" mags as the unsprung weight is less and thought it may help the shocks live longer on corrugations. I specced my Pioneer camper with 16" wheels and thought they would be Ok to interchange with the GU with the same rolling radius tyres. Made a bit of a mistake when the wheels fitted by the dealer although the same stud pattern are slightly too small on the internal hub diameter to fit over the lip on the disc hub. Make sure the camper wheels are not Toyota style. I am now carrying two genuine Nissan steel wheels as spares on the camper.
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Reply By: Muntoo - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 23:06
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 23:06
I still think the 17s are too expensive, the other day i seen 31x10.5/15 for $220, exact same tyre in 265/65/17 was $310 and 265/70/16 was $250. They all have the exact same OD. Why would you pay more money for the exact same OD? Smaller sidewalls handle better on road i am told, but arent as good off road. Plus they wont bag out as much on sand.
I am in the same boat really, i wanna move up to a bigger tyre, but i currently have the factory 16s on. The size i wanna move up to is 31'' or 265/70/16. I also want new mags, but it has me wondering why pay about $50 more per rim, and about $50 more per tyre to have 16'' wheels, when i can save about $500 straight up and use 15'' rims and still have the same OD.
I think thats a huge saving, thats a rear lokka or about 13 cartons of beer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 00:04
Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 00:04
Bob Janes have got 265/65/17 Kumho for $219 each.
The Bridgestones and Michelin in same size are about $280, so they have come down a lot.
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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:06
Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:06
Not too bad, but if you want BF Goodrich or Goodyear you'll be paying over $400 here. Kumhos are crap thats why there cheap. Cost me $310 for Bridgestone 6 months ago, and they were passenger construction not LT.
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