house batteries

hi all
has someone got an opinion? i have had two acdelco deep cycle batteries and i have had nothing but trouble with one of them, when doing a trip around oz it has been a pain, for instance only having one acdelco dealer in the whole of the NT specks loudly enough i think.Anyhow i am starting my search for new batteries, i really only run my 80 litre weaco and my light at night in the back of my patrol. i do have a c-tex 25000 charger and a honda generator, i wish for some options on gel or drycell or i may not need to go to that extent can someone give me some advice on these batteries and what they will do or even some data on what you run in your set ups, ps i don't think you are able to use ctex charges on gel batteries though?
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 18:41

Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 18:41
do you fully charge them before you go away? do you keep them charged?
how long do you drive and charge them whilst away on your trips?
delco batteries can take up to 5 days charging each with conventional chargers . you may in fact be travelling with discharged batteries to start with.
if theses delco batteries are the calcium hybrids you will need a 5 stage charger as the voltage into the battery may have to exceed 15 volts.(or get an old charger 25+ years old that doesnt have any automatics ). most delco batteries take ages to charge on a vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 19:08

Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 19:08
Hello Mick'n'Jen,

Stuart already mentioned the importance of fully recharging your batteries before the next nightly discharge session.

Don't rely on the alternator alone.
Alternator charging is only good for applications requiring float charging like your starter battery (cranking your engine only consumes less than 0.5Ah of charge).
Compare this with the typical overnight fridge/lights drain of 20 or 25Ah and it becomes clear why this is called a 'cyclic' application.

Cyclic apps require a higher charging voltage, regardless of the battery type involved.

That's where your 25A charger comes in handy.

Use it in connection with your generator to boost charge your batteries at the 14.4V setting.
Let it charge for 1 to 1.5 hours minimum which'll bring the state of charge up to around 95%.

Ideally, you would then have a medium sized (60 to 80 Watts to give you some extra for powering the fridge during the day) solar panel topping off the charge at the float voltage setting of 13.6V during the remainder of a sunny day.
Any el cheapo solar regulator will achieve this for you.

That way the batteries will be fully charged between each discharge cycle.
FYI, it won't hurt to apply a one hour 15.5V equalisation charging stage every 2 to 4 weeks, to keep the cells balanced inside your wet cell batteries.

Best regards, Peter
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Follow Up By: Andrew & Jen - Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 19:46

Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 19:46
Hullo Mick 'n' Jen
Good advice above
We have 3 Delcos as house batteries in the boat + one as the starting battery. So far they have survived nearly 9 years of abuse and are still going OK. The trick is in the charging, as stated above. When away sailing, I make sure that every third day we motor sail so as to bring the charge back up. This is done with a manual system so that we can bulk charge at 14.8v until the input current per battery drops to <2 amps. We then drop it back to 13.6v float. At anchor, we use a 60w solar panel to supplement.
Rgds
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Mick'n'Jen - Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 20:06

Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 20:06
Thanks guys, the process i have in place is that after camping for a few days i see that my batteries are down so i kick the geny in the guts plug in the ctex put it on NORMAL charge mode it takes a few hours to go through all the stages then it indicates that the batteries are charged, i stop the geny, do the same in a couple of days. The problem i had with on of the batteries is that it started spewing acid out the side of the battery in the middle of oz. i rang acdelco they said yeh take it in ,the only place in the NT is in Darwin that’s handy when you are not going any where near the joint, by the time i got there it was out of warranty so you can guess what happened next.
Is this procedure not correct ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 22:47

Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 22:47
if your battery has started to leak from anywhere there is a problem, most delco batteries come with a 2 year warranty unless in ataxi or truck.
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Reply By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 19:00

Sunday, Jul 04, 2010 at 19:00
G/day M&J.This forum is better than google for most things,I'm sure you'll get the best advice pretty soon,if not before I post this.
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