Solar Panels on Ebay

Has anyone ever bought one of these solar panels off Ebay. If so, are they OK

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They also have 80W folding panels for $199.

It all seems to good to be true

Cheers,

Cruiser
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Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Tuesday, Jul 06, 2010 at 21:55

Tuesday, Jul 06, 2010 at 21:55
Hello Cruiser,

...It all seems to good to be true....

How do you think this seller could achieve an almost 100% impeccable feedback rating if it was not true :)

Best regards, Peter
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Tuesday, Jul 06, 2010 at 23:54

Tuesday, Jul 06, 2010 at 23:54
Pretty easy if he hasn't sold any !!!!!!!

Is there a way to see how many transactions someone has made on e bay ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:21

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:21
There are many ways to see things about a seller on eBay.Feedback is the best..
you can see the comments of buyers..good & bad. I have used eBay for over 300
transactions without an issue, but you do need to do your research & know the value of what you want. I dont bid on a seller with less than 98% positive feedback. Shonky sellers are soon found out. EBay cops a lot of flack, most of it from those who have never used it. I have bought stuff for around 40% of the
price asked elsewhere & have not had a problem with any of it. cheers....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:28

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:28
there is a linked number in brackets next to the seller's nick.
This tells you the number of feedbacks received, so the number of sales would be higher than this number.
When clicking through on this number, you get to see the feedback comments.

There is also a link called 'History' which tells you how many of this particular item have been sold so far.

But feedback rating is by far the most accurate indicator for the reliability of product sold.
From my own experience, about 1 in 5 buyers delay their feedback, giving them time to test the item before giving you their rating.

And once the seller has gained favourable feedback status, believe me, he's not going to gamble this away lightly by starting to mislead his clients with wrong product descriptions or even by selling faulty items.

Hope to have offered you some useful insight.

Best regards, Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:46

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:46
The other thing I find useful is to click on the advanced search and search for the item afetr you click "completed listings only".

Gives you a history of sales and how much the items actually sold for.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 04:51

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 04:51
Cruiser
I just recieved my solar panels 2 weeks back

Solar Panels

I grabbed the 120 Watt model.
I too hope they work.

In the back yard, they seem OK, but I am dammed if I can get a maximum of 17 Volts out of them, like they claim.
Time will tell, and its certainly better than listening to a rattling diesel motor, or generator, all the time

Cheers Bucky
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:59

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:59
Bucky,
welcome to the boring and quiet world of solar power :-)

Hope your using a good solar regulator with it
(only the panel will produce the claimed maximum voltage)

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:57

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:57
Regulaor ?
Tell me more
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:04

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:04
Bucky,
are you suggesting the guy who sold you the 120 watt solar panel did not also supply you with a solar regulator ???

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Saturday, Jul 10, 2010 at 03:56

Saturday, Jul 10, 2010 at 03:56
Mainey

Has regulator on the back.
What I need now is to figure out if the power is going into my batterys.

I may well hook up an inline voltmeter, but being new to solar, I am wondering does the mere fact that there is a current, even as low as 5 volts going into my battery, is that actually charging ? .

My only understanding of power is that it actually flows from the higher power source to the lower..Is there a capacitor in the controller, and when the current spikes higher than the battery, then some charge is actually let into the storage device.


Can someone actually enlighten me !
It maybe time to actually read up.

Cheers
Bucky
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Saturday, Jul 10, 2010 at 09:09

Saturday, Jul 10, 2010 at 09:09
Bucky,

...... hook up an inline *Ammeter*, but being new to solar, I am wondering does the mere fact that there is a current, even as low as 5 *Amps* going into my battery, is that actually charging ?

Yes, 5 Amps is a realistic current when running a fridge, because the fridge will be using about the same current as what is going in, therefore negating the current going out, so at the end of the day you still have a fully charged battery to run the fridge at night.

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Dagil - Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 at 01:04

Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 at 01:04
Hi Bucky

i just bought an 80w set for $299 inc postage which is still a good price.

I have a question though, when you received your 120w set was the 'Controller'
already attached to the wires or did you have to do it yourself?

My panels came with the 'controller' seperate and I think I will have to wire it in myself.
Not too sure what to do about this as it means I may have to buy more connections.

I've contacted 'adventurerscorner' but will wait for them to get back to me.

The picture on the website shows it all connected up

Hope you're happy with yours

Cheers

David
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Reply By: lizard - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 11:08

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 11:08
I purchased two X 120 watt panels from ebay (forget who) delivered to my door for less than half price of Perth sellers ... happy with them (get 9.9 amps in full sunlight - Sth of Perth in May )
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:24

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:24
I would expect you to get much higher ratings than that on a good day

for comparison purposes only
I get 12 Amps from just 203 Watts, while horozantal on the roof.

From your ebay 240 Watts = 9.9 Amps in full sunshine, I would expect at least ~20% more than I get, because you have ~20% more capacity.

(as they say, '0ils aint 0ils' - same can also be said about solar panels too)

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: lizard - Friday, Jul 09, 2010 at 17:10

Friday, Jul 09, 2010 at 17:10
In the same location they compared favourably with my two 80 watt panels (name brand) that delivered 7.2 amps
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Reply By: didiaust - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 13:01

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 13:01
My hubby bought a 125 watt for $450 made in China but from an Aussie seller on Ebay but hubby says it not a 125 watt
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Follow Up By: Signman - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 13:41

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 13:41
Why does hubby say it's not a 125 watt??

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Follow Up By: didiaust - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 15:49

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 15:49
The size and its doesn't run fridge as well as our 120 one
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 18:39

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 18:39
didiaust,
so what 'size' is it ???

Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Ianw - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 20:34

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 20:34
I would be getting two of the 60watt panels for $99 each !! 120 watts for less than $200 !!!

Ian
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Follow Up By: Cruiser .- Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 21:05

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 21:05
Ianw,

Now yo have me thinking

Cheers,

Cruiser
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Follow Up By: Scott C (Coolum - QLD) - Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 21:28

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 21:28
Must have been a rush on those $99 panels, seems they have gone up!
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 23:33

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 23:33
You are right! Bugger! I was too slow. He put up the price on both 80w and 60w panels at 11:30 last night. They were $99 and $199.

Ian
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 23:36

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 23:36
Cruiser , did you buy some and alert him to the low price ? lol!!

Ian
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 21:39

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2010 at 21:39
Cruiser,

Check out Mandrakes Solar. He advertises here and has an outstanding reputation.

Jim.

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Reply By: energy marty - Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:10

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:10
I would check out the efficiency of them - 13.1% is pretty low.

Kyocera give you 17% + - so about 30% more efficient...
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Reply By: energy marty - Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:13

Thursday, Jul 08, 2010 at 16:13
I would be a little concerned about their efficiency - 13.1%

As a comparison, Kyocera are rated at about 17% efficiency which is 30% more.

You want to get as much power as you can...
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Reply By: greybeard - Friday, Jul 09, 2010 at 15:14

Friday, Jul 09, 2010 at 15:14
the efficiency of a solar panel is a measure of how much of the solar radiation gets converted to electrical power. ie power in/power out
if a panel is rated at 100W ( output power ) then the difference between a 13% efficient panel and a 17% efficient panel will be in the surface area of solar panels. that is, the lower efficiency ( 13% ) will have the larger surface area of solar panel to receive more input power from the sun.
If the panel produces it's rated power and the physical size difference isn't an issue, you can ignore the difference in efficiency.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Friday, Jul 09, 2010 at 15:47

Friday, Jul 09, 2010 at 15:47
Because solar panels are only rated for Max Wattage in peak test conditions, the Amps available number and % produced under *low light* conditions is not available as a comparison number to the buyer, this is the area that should be of major concern to buyers and not the peak performance number, because the panel is more often than not producing less than 100% of it's rated power.

Some panels are woeful under low light conditions and some are fantastic.

Some manufacturers will rate the etire panel and some will only rate the individual solar cell also giving a variation in % value to add to the confusion of which is more efficient.

Maîneÿ . . .
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