School Zones

I think this is pretty general, it was enforced a few years back but there are a whole lot of these laws that nobody seems to care much about any more. Things like failing to put a nose bag on your horse when it's tied up in the street.

Extract from QLD advice to drivers.

Keeping left

On single-lane roads, drivers must stay as close as practical to the left side of the road.

When the speed limit is 90 km/h or more on multi-lane roads, you must not drive in the right-hand lane unless you are:

* overtaking
* turning right
* making a U-turn
* avoiding an obstacle
* driving in congested traffic.

It is an offence to drive in the right lane if none of the above criteria are occurring.

This rule also applies to a road with a speed limit of 80 km/hr or less if there is a KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING sign.

Drivers are allowed to overtake on the left on all multi-lane roads.

This law cannot be enforced unless there is nowhere to turn right. Example a freeway with no right hand off ramp. The driver just goes to court and says I was waiting for the off ramp. The magistrate lets him off. Police know this and do not police this rule.

Hi Carlsp

Son in law is Highway Patrol NSW. For every stupid 'excuse' a driver offers him, he has a reply that would result in a greater fine. Basically he says, 'do you want to keep going with the lies?'. They generally wear the original infringement.

Cheers, Dave

I don't care what the posted speed limit is, KEEP LEFT unless turning right, and I have seen drivers get into the right lane to turn right 2 Klms from the turn , that to me is a sign of incompetence .

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Dead right Shaker. Also, all the parents who want to all park at the fronty gate at the same time, to pick up (and drop off) little Johnny, obstructing all and sundry, need the education more than most kids I reckon. What I see from the drivers seat of my bus every day is dead set scary.

Fred.

True, God help them if they had to actually walk a few metres, & thye wonder why we have an obesity problem!

Bring back the scool busses and solve the problem with the car drop off at the schools.

Wot ? No school buses in WA.

William, I reckon that Yota of yours would be just the thing to clear some of those wayward parking mums with their 4 doors open in bus stops each morning and arvo. Sensational rig mate.

Fred.

I remember school buses ... and waiting in line ... and a bunch of watchful teachers ........ and getting a cuff in the ear by a teacher for running around on the road or yahooing ......

Clever how motorists are now held responsible for incidents/behaviour that the education dept/govt ..... USED to keep in check.

Excellent comment Oz.
The teachers now can't get them on the bus quick enough and the door closed quick enough, so they become the drivers responsibility, till we drop them off. I'd love to be able to present some parents with a copy of the on board security video, which we don't have, but some do.
Always easier for the authorities to make someone else responsible it seems.

Very true Oz, problem now is the teachers are not even allowed to hold little Johnys hand or little Marys hand as they can be charged, world gone mad thanks to the do gooders, no wonder there are kids out there that don't give a toss and if there doing the wrong thing crossing on the roads you bip them to warn them and you end up with some 5 year old or more telling you to get f-----, we have 4 teachers in our street, some of the story's they tell us. Teachers have lost most of their rights these days, even if there are kids fighting and trying to kill each other they are not allowed to touch them in any way, have to stand there and tell little johny to stop fighting even while he's laying the boot into some other kids head while he's on the ground, Bring back the cain I reckon pull em back in line. Give teachers back the authority they use to have......Regards Steve

Before we follow that advice, we need evidence that it actually works LOL.
Photos please :-))))

An illuminated sign makes you aware that it is a school time, how in the hell would we know, we haven't got kids!

what happened to the flags that would get put out during school zone restrictions??

cheap and effective
In year 8 that was one of the things us boarders would get rostered for the week doing along with raising and lowering the australian flag

the outgoing guy would train the incomming one - I remember being shown how to remove and fold the flag without putting it on the ground

OMG...don't start on roundabouts...:-)))

Fred

End school zone sign. Why? If the sign is posted stating the maximum you can travel, ie 40,60 80 100 or whatever why do you need a sign to tell you to end that zone? Wrong.. So if you are travelling in 40k school zone & the next sign you see is 60 then you are in a 60 zone....if you are in a residential area and there are no signs then the maximum you can travel at is 50k/pH that's the law. On a f/way if there are no signs stating keep left unless overtaking & the maximum speed limit is 80k/pH then I can sit in the right lane all day. What if another driver wants to travel at 70 in the 80 zone he/she is doing nothing illegal maybe discurteous by travelling under the maximum limit posted. Whilst we are on crossings yesterday in my local town I was slowing to a walking pace because school children proceeded to walk across a pedestrian crossing (not children's crossing) and out in front of me walks a female senior citizen...she saw me and just kept on walking. We were about 40 metres from the ped crossing. Yes, illegal however I just stopped and looked at her I didn't abuse her but my wife in the front passenger seat enquired from the elderly cit. "Why don't you set an example for the young folk & for your safety use the crossing" Reply, "Get stuffed" So it's not only our kids that do the wrong thing...I wonder where they learn bad habits from. Thank God I am retiring soon my years of dealing with the public all day every day has worn me out!!!

AAAhhhhhyesss...the elderly cits, who, head down, backside up, just do a sharp left or right turn to cross the road and expect motorists not to come in contact with them, and are oblivious to anything going on around them..sheeez.
And what about the more recent phenomenon....those electric gopher bugies with the sand flags :-)))) Senior cits on a mission of destruction on the footpath LOL LOL (with apologies to all responsible users of this mode of transport.)

This is a great thread Ray....and was always bound to get off track mate :-)))

Fred.

FollowupID: 695600 Submitted: Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 at 16:31
OREJAP posted:
End school zone sign. Why? If the sign is posted stating the maximum you can travel, ie 40,60 80 100 or whatever why do you need a sign to tell you to end that zone? Wrong.. So if you are travelling in 40k school zone & the next sign you see is 60 then you are in a 60 zone....i

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The reason for the end school zone sign .... is because its easier to bang one of those up at taxpayer expense ..... than ripping out the closest 50kph sign and placing it at the end of the designated school zone area.

In some cases, one can be miles from a school before finding a speed zone sign carefully located amongst the bushes or roadside advertising.

Why the heck the clowns that come up with all this nonsense just dont paint the gutters or have a wide, brightly coloured, centre line on the road for school areas is beyond me ....

Why the heck the clowns that come up with all this nonsense just dont paint the gutters or have a wide, brightly coloured, centre line on the road for school areas is beyond me ....

Oz.....we're on the same wavelength mate :-)

Fred.

The school zones used to be 7am to 9.30 am the 3 pm to 5.30 pm.

But people complained it was to hard to remember, so they said ok we will make it really simple, it will now be 7 am to 5.30 pm except for weekends and school holidays.

The moral of the story is Be careful what you wish for.

and dont forget a todler in a pram or baby in arms

I like your idea.

Have a good one

At 10kph they're much less likely to be killed.

We need 10kph zones between every school and every childs home at any time when they may be near a road.

. . . no, we need to make that 5kph.

Yes life was certainly simpler before the govt started funding the signage industry.

35mph limit meant you could drive at speeds of up toi 35mph keeping in mind that you had to be aware of school kids, other pedestrians, traffic at intersections etc ... and might need to drive slower sometimes.


Now you dont have to keep anything in mind ..... just blunder along from one sign to the next ... which is like doing a jigsaw ... Without looking at the picture on box cover.