Patrol 3.0 TD auto 2005 towing capacity
Submitted: Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:43
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KenInPerth
Hi all - we be newbies to all this and approaching the stage of wanting to tour.
We have Patrol as above and as you may know it is rated at 2500Kg for the auto.
I note a lot of varying discussion on towing large vans (say 25' Jayco
Heritage / Sterling) with such a vehicle.
If the large vans are just too big for the 3.0 TD then what do you guys suggest is the largest van we should be considering if we do not want to change the Patrol.
Thanks in advance.
Ken
Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:59
Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:59
Size doesnt matter its the weight and should be adhered to for safety and longevity of the vehicle.
Not sure if longevity and a 3.0TD should be in the same sentence LOL
I had a van with an ATM of 2600 and sold the Patrol and bought a TD Cruiser and couldnt be happier
Quieter more comfortable and doesnt use much more fuel Most people say you shouldnt exceed the ATM of 2500kg but a recent question the the RTA produced this answer to the question.
"If a vehicle has a towing capacity of 2500kg can it tow a van with a higher ATM, say 2800kg"
the surprising answer was
Graham,
Yes,you can tow the caravan under the following conditions.
1 / You do not exceed the vehicle manufacturers tow capacity of 2500 kg for the vehicle, ( this means that the caravan cannot exceed its GTM, of 2500 kg,even though it has an greater ATM ).
2 / Your vehicle must have a compliant tow bar fitted and it must be correctly rated,the RTA do not have any requirements on "ball weight".
Regards
So go figure.
I wouldnt tow that weight with that vehicle.
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Follow Up By: KenInPerth - Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 20:18
Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 20:18
Hi Graham
Thanks for the reply - by "size" I meant to imply "weight" as yes obviously size don't count, it is the weight you are towing.
Ken
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 20:28
Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 20:28
Size only matters in certain rooms where too much weight is not so good LOL
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Reply By: Motherhen - Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 16:05
Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 16:05
Hi Ken
Our 2003 model could tow our caravan
well, BUT - with a tare of 2.22 t on the rego (without considering additions and amendments made by various owners), we couldn't even fill to water tanks and be legal. When we loaded up the van for long trip last year it was 3 tonne when ON the vehicle. So what ever you get, allow for your maximum load.
Maybe consider a caravan with around 1.8 tonne tare?
The only limitations of the Patrol were twice when on a standing start on a very steep
hill, the gear box let us down and we moved rather slowly - had we known what lay ahead we would have selected low range and done it easily.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: KenInPerth - Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 20:23
Monday, Jul 26, 2010 at 20:23
Thank you for the
information.
Nothing better than hearing it from someone who has "been there".
Ken
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Reply By: KenInPerth - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:10
Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:10
Thanks to all for your
information and experience - I am seeing a pretty clear general message here. It will tow the max load but with no margins and working the Patrol to it's limit - and most of our trips we would expect to be long haul out of
Perth to actually "get away" to
places we have not been.
So, looking in the other direction and not changing the Patrol, what load would you all consider a feasible load to pull with the 3.0 TD - more like 2000Kg all up or lower?? (I note Motherhen suggested maybe a TARE of 1800).
Ken
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Follow Up By: splits - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:55
Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:55
A couple of months ago I found a 2007 copy of 4x4 Australia in a doctor's surgery. In the Q & A section someone was asking if towing the maximum rated load of 3000kg for a couple of the popular utes was asking too much of them. The reply was yes and I think from memory they said a good rule of thumb was to use two thirds of the GVM of the vehicle plus 10%. This made it a lot easier on the vehicle and left a fair safety margin.
Where you intend towing should also come into it. Some road surfaces add a lot to the rolling resistance and increase stress on the vehicle. I contacted Toyota a few years ago when I bought my Hilux. They said the maximum load of 1800kg as per the book was ok for all surfaces except soft sand. They did not recommend towing at all on that!
I know the Army uses reduced towing and carrying capacities on all of their vehicles in off road conditions. Car manufacturers may recommed the same so it would not hurt to ring Nissan and discuss it before you make any decisions.
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