GXL Wagon. Any good in the bush?

Submitted: Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:23
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Hi there,

Has anyone proved the GXL Wagon in the bush yet??

How has everyone got around the single fuel tank??

I haven't seen that many around - where are they??

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Reply By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:43

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:43
What sort of GXL Wagon??? Cruiser 100, 200, Prado.........????
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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:45

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:45
Hi,
The new one that looks like a troopy with 4 doors...
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Reply By: Axle - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:46

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:46
Which Friggen model??.......LOL.

You need a bigger spoon!.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:49

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:49
This one

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:58

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:58
The 76 Series.

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Reply By: rocco2010 - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 23:26

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 23:26
Gidday

There are people on here with far more experience than me ... but it is a toyota so why would you be worried?

All I can say is that i followed one in a convoy for a few hours one day and looking at that narrower rear track kinda starts to do your head in ...


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Follow Up By: Member - Hillel K (VIC) - Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 16:45

Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 16:45
Hi there
All the V8'S have narrow rear track that is-cab chassis,wagon and troop carrier ....
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Reply By: Crackles - Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:07

Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:07
While a great basic package I think the silence in the room stems from the fact they are so poor value for money that there are very few actually on the roads. Other than the superior V8 diesel engine, they were a backward step in almost every way from the previous vehicle being the 100 series base model. Space, comfort, leg room, features, handling were all sacrificed on this model to the point where one of the most common vehicles on the road has been replaced by one you rarely ever see.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 14:09

Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 14:09
Hi Craig,

Thanks for your answer - I don't mind about space, comfort, leg room and features - handling is important to me.

The chassis is 76 series though isn't it?? Is this model not more robust than the previous round looking 100 series wagon??

The silence in the room speaks loudly..

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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 18:03

Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 18:03
AFAIK the 76 is more a 4 door Troopy than a replacement for the 100 series so called "poverty pack".......lol. As such it was never going to have the ride comfort of the 100 but lots more load carrying ability. (leaf sprung rear rather than coils)
Whether that V8 diesel is as good as its predessor......?????????? only time will tell.
It certainly has gobs of torque.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 18:26

Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 18:26
the 105 series was not very robust out bush and easily suffer panel damage with just normal driving due to the exposed panels compared to the utes/troopies

other things like the rear plastic bumbers easily came off. in open pit use the interiors get ratty and rattly alot quicker.

Things like the small gearbox and front diff are more of a problem in the heavier 105 than the utes and were upgraded in the 76

for what you use it for a 105 wont be appropriate
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 18:28

Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 18:28
should add a downside to the v8s is the amount of engine removals they need for basic repairs due to lack of room and differing metals mean alot of stripped bolts which often needs the engine removed

i often see a couple out in the workshop for just basic things like manifold replacements
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 19:58

Saturday, Jul 31, 2010 at 19:58
The 76 was slipped into the lineup to fill the gap left by the absense of a base model when the 200 was introduced. As it turned out government departments & mining companies etc didn't take to the smaller size & bigger price quite as much.
"the 76 is more a 4 door Troopy" Well it's not even that. The body is actually off an early model Prado (Before 90 series) and as such suffers in the space department. When first announced I was keen to buy this new 4 door Troopy but after running the tape measure over it I simply couldn't fit the family & gear in. As the rear track is 100mm narrower than the front this transfers inside as well, the back seat really not spacious enough for 3 adults particually as it's not scupltured for the person sitting in the middle. The storage area too is so shallow I couldn't even fit my 73L Autofridge lengthways.
As for load capacity despite it only having a 90L tank it still doesn't carry much more than it's predecesor. That's because the springs aren't off a 70 series Troopy or Ute. From memory they are about 100mm shorter with less leaves which would limit it's wheel travel a touch as well.
For me I couldn't justify the cost instead choosing to strengthen & upgrade the power of my 100 but if you were a couple towing a van or camper around Oz they would make a reliable tourer with a few upgrades like suspension, fuel tank & seats.
Will look forward to seeing what Toyota replace this bitza with on the next model.
Cheers Craig.........
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 14:04

Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 14:04
Cheers, I'm almost as confused now as ever :))

I was just interested in a vehicle a bit different than the ute and troopy though still maintaining their strength. I've driven a troopy before and they are very good, just not my style.

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Follow Up By: Mark Howlett - Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 17:59

Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 17:59
I wonder if Nissan brought back the GQ and fitted it with a V8 diesel, would people pay 60 grand for an old vehicle with a new motor?
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Follow Up By: Ino - Monday, Aug 02, 2010 at 23:49

Monday, Aug 02, 2010 at 23:49
Mark - is that a trick question? Of course they will!

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Follow Up By: Mark Howlett - Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 at 00:20

Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 at 00:20
Actually they could charge more - coil springs all round and more space - imagine the line ups at the Nissan dealers!
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Reply By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 18:58

Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 18:58
G'day Alan,

Put the money into the "Fair Maid", with stronger suspension..lol lol

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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 21:48

Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 21:48
May be cheaper I reckon Michael!!! I guess the trick is to know what suspension to get :))

Hope you made it back with no probs...

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Reply By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 19:17

Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 19:17
Hi Alan, you might pick up some stuff on http://www.lcool.org/index.html

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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 21:50

Sunday, Aug 01, 2010 at 21:50
Thanks John I will have a look




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Reply By: fawkesp - Monday, Aug 02, 2010 at 19:40

Monday, Aug 02, 2010 at 19:40
Alan,

Admittedly a little late (and in a light-hearted manner), but if you have a look at the latest issue of both Campertrailer Australia (Issue 32) and 4x4 Australia (Issue September 2010) magazines, they both have a cover story that feature the GXL wagon.


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