pajero lifting
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:10
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canyonaro MK1
Just wondering if anyone can help me with information for lifting my 95 pajero 50mm.
I am told if you wind out the tortion bars (Front obviously) to far they break and you loose your downward wheel travel anyway.
Also, i'm told that the ball joints need to be swapped around to get the height.
I realize that a wheel allignment is a must after altering
suspension.
I am looking at an ironman 50mm lift kit of shockers, springs (rear) and tortion bars (front) am i too assume that tortion bars in a lift kit are longer to compensate the travel and tendancy to break?
Thanks
Reply By: OREJAP - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:48
Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:48
Hi Canyonaro, I went to a garage/w/
shop that sold off road
suspension components a few years ago & after buying poor quality stuff to save $$$ I wish I had taken the good advice given to me by an old 4WDriver. So to help you I will give you the same advice. Go to a reutable company like ARB or TJM who specialise in after market
suspension especially the first mentioned their stuff has been engineered & tested to Australian conditions unlike some that has been made to a price overseas & marketed in Aust. 50mm is about the max Mitsubishi recommend. You MUST get the 4 wheels aligned & balanced otherwise tyres will wear especially the rears. "There is no substitute for quality" IMHO. phone some of the touring/tag along companies or a group of off road specialists see how many are using the brand you are looking at. If you have the $$$ & want the best....go for it. You only get what you pay for in the end. I have had two 50mm lifts on Pajero NP & my NT. ARB have not touched ball joints or torsion bars.
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 16:51
Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 16:51
95 model, why the rears aligned ?? Arnt they solid rear end ?? Not IRS like the later shape............
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:09
Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:09
I had a 1993 NJ Pajero which I lifted 50mm with no problems but used good TJM gear as has been suggested.
The replacement torsion bars are not longer they are stiffer to better control the movement. There is less travel in one direction so you need to make it harder. You must also replace the shocks to also achieve better control. I also put in HD rear coils and Polyairs to allow adjustment for load especially when the larger tank was full, CT attached and gear in.
The vehicle performed
well though the ride was not as nice as the original.
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Geoff H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:32
Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:32
I suggest you speak to someone who has some experience with your vehicle. The fitter I spoke to drove a vehicle like
mine which was also lifted.
He suggested EFS springs and KONI shocks for my 80 series and the outcome was fantastic.
Those brands might not suit the Pajero so have a look on the Pajero
Forum for more specialist advice.
Regards
Geoff
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Reply By: ChrisE - Friday, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:55
Friday, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:55
Any lift on IFS/IRS reduces downward wheel travel as the bottom position is the same (ie. when airborne and the wheels hang down!!) and you gain upward wheel travel (ie. when you land and the wheels try to come through the bonnet!!), therefore they use stiffer torsion bars in lift kits (they are the same length).
Some people wind up the originals as a cheap lift, but in most cases they are on the way out and ready to break anyway, so not really from the lift but it doesn't help.
Don't forget the reason your car has torsion bars is for the handling and ride quality mainly, so putting a lift in will make it ride harsher and not absorb the bumps on the highway as much. Really starting to head away from the intended use of your car, unlike say a patrol/cruiser that isn't built for it's road handling. Think about long term intended use.
If you decide to proceed, try and find someone else with a lift and try before your buy that brand of kit, also buy it in a kit and you should be right as the shocks would be matched with the torsion bars.
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