Air command Ibis Comments
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 06:28
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Expanda 1756
Does any one have any feed back with regards to air con, I am looking at fitting an Air command Ibis roof mount to my new expanda. I have had dometic in the past and not reel happy. has any one got one of these on there van that could give me any feed back.
Cheers.
Reply By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 07:14
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 07:14
Hi Expanda,
our Sterling outback van came with one and we have used it for both heating and cooling. It worked fantastically when we stayed in
Cooktown a few months ago and we left it going all day so that when we returned to have lunch or take a break from sightseeing, it was a cool and comfortable place.
When on heating it apparently wont start if the temp drops below about 2 degrees, not sure if it was left on whether it would just keep going though.
We tried using it in temps around 0 degrees and couldnt get it to start , had it checked and think that was the reason.
We have used it to warm up the van when we pulled up in a site on cold days ans it does the job quickly.
I now carry a small fan heater for when we are powered and want to run heating throughout the night as I think it would be noisy having the aircon running (for us and neighbours).
Cheers,
Heather
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:22
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:22
We have one in our 16 month old van - have not used it extensively yet - just occasionally to date - but it seems to run very
well in both hot and cold modes.
Correct re above on heating limitations at very low ambient temps - they all have that safequard to prevent icing and overheating of the compressor (then fire)......
mine seems happy to heat though down around 4C ambient. They are all noisy to an extent - bit of a clunk when the compressor kicks in and out but relatively quiet while running. Practice would be required to sleep with it going in my view. A few points - it has a remote controller to keep by the bedside (quite effective), the are said to be the lowest profile of any available (worth something), will run from a 2Kva inverter generator AND they are made in SA, not China.
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Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:36
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:36
Hi Darian,
How big is your van? What temps can you acheive inside with outside at say 35o.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 18:29
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 18:29
I've not given it a decent run in hot weather yet - but the few short runs it has had in heat lead me to think that it will get the van down to quite a comfortable level - no readings taken to date though - last week I did run it for a whole day on heat cycle (riding out the wild wet weather up in the SA mid north, while returning
home for a Red Centre trip) - no problems - kept us toasty warm all day.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 06:24
Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 06:24
Hi Expanda and Darian,
We ran ours for hours each day when we were in
Cooktown and it had no problems keeping the temp to whatever it was set on, around 22 degrees from memory. It was
well over 30 outside and very humid and uncomfortable.
We have an 18 ft Sterling van but it would easlily do the job on a bigger one.
Cheers Heather
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Reply By: Member - Terry W (ACT) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:48
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:48
We have had two Ibis, one in our 20 foot Sterling and the one in our current 21 foot Sterling. The first one was a dream: in
Canberra winters it heated very
well from temperatures inside the van of zero degrees, and it would pull down the internal temperature on a 38 degree day in the sun to 22 degrees quite quickly. And as others have said it was relatively quiet in operation.
Our current one is not as good. On a recent trip it was able to start raising the temperature from zero, but would "stall" at around 7 degrees for up to 20 minutes before eventually climbing again up to 22. It is going in for warranty investigation in a couple of weeks time, and hopefully it will turn out to be a minor and easily fixable issue.
From our experience with the first one, it is clear that they can be very effective at both heating and cooling, but unless our current one is a one-off problem, there would appear to be some variance in performance.
I hope this helps and does not cause more confusion.
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Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:00
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:00
great feed back, thanks.
I have heared that the new ones have an anti freeze mode that won't allow them to run below 2deg outside temp. my dometic would not have acheived this and was the same size.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Charlie M (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:47
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:47
Hi Terry
Just my opinion on these aircond's not working below 4 degrees is that they don't have a external fan keeping the outside coil un frosted. The old rooftop units used to work below that temp, they had two sets of blowers. House aircond's use same gas as RV units and they work in low temp conditions.
I think it is to cut down on weight keep price lower and feed all this rubbish on compressors freezing fire ect as most people don't know difference.
they are a reverse cycle system so all that is happening in heat mode the internal unit becomes the heat pump and the out side unit is the cold side with now air blowing through fins the evaporated condensation turns to ice and freezes the core, when unit shuts down it take a long time before restart. That is why the thermostat is set to two to four degrees to try to stop unit freezing core.
Cheers
Chass
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