Air command Ibis Comments

Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 06:28
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Does any one have any feed back with regards to air con, I am looking at fitting an Air command Ibis roof mount to my new expanda. I have had dometic in the past and not reel happy. has any one got one of these on there van that could give me any feed back.
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Reply By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 07:14

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 07:14
Hi Expanda,

our Sterling outback van came with one and we have used it for both heating and cooling. It worked fantastically when we stayed in Cooktown a few months ago and we left it going all day so that when we returned to have lunch or take a break from sightseeing, it was a cool and comfortable place.

When on heating it apparently wont start if the temp drops below about 2 degrees, not sure if it was left on whether it would just keep going though.
We tried using it in temps around 0 degrees and couldnt get it to start , had it checked and think that was the reason.
We have used it to warm up the van when we pulled up in a site on cold days ans it does the job quickly.

I now carry a small fan heater for when we are powered and want to run heating throughout the night as I think it would be noisy having the aircon running (for us and neighbours).

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Reply By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 07:35

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 07:35
Hi Heather,
I appreciate the feed back, when the AC is cooling do you find it to be noisy?

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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:19

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:19
Well, it isnt whisper quiet but worth every bit of the noise when its too hot and/or humid without it. We havent been anywhere where we have run it through the night yet.
We also have aircon at home and it is not really much different from that.
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Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:00

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:00
Thanks,
Your feed back has been much appreciated.

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Follow Up By: Member - Carl- Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:33

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:33
Expanda, I think the point you were after is it quieter than a Dometic? YES alot.

Had both and it is much better. If you want to run it off and red 2KVA Honda, I think there might be problems but other people make say I am wrong. Not certain of me facts here.

My understanding is a Cormorant is almost the same as a Ibis but uses less power and will run of a honda if this info is relevant.
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Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:53

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:53
carl,
yeh, I am just trying to get an idea of other owners opinions on the IBIS.
As you know the dealers are obviously biaest.
I have had the dometic on 2 vans now and i cant say i have been completely happy, no real problems they just did not work that well.
We spend a lot of time in north qld and my wife enjoys here ac. I have a 3kva gen so that is not an issue anyway.

Thanks for your comments.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:22

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:22
We have one in our 16 month old van - have not used it extensively yet - just occasionally to date - but it seems to run very well in both hot and cold modes.
Correct re above on heating limitations at very low ambient temps - they all have that safequard to prevent icing and overheating of the compressor (then fire)...... mine seems happy to heat though down around 4C ambient. They are all noisy to an extent - bit of a clunk when the compressor kicks in and out but relatively quiet while running. Practice would be required to sleep with it going in my view. A few points - it has a remote controller to keep by the bedside (quite effective), the are said to be the lowest profile of any available (worth something), will run from a 2Kva inverter generator AND they are made in SA, not China.
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Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:36

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 11:36
Hi Darian,
How big is your van? What temps can you acheive inside with outside at say 35o.
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 18:29

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 18:29
I've not given it a decent run in hot weather yet - but the few short runs it has had in heat lead me to think that it will get the van down to quite a comfortable level - no readings taken to date though - last week I did run it for a whole day on heat cycle (riding out the wild wet weather up in the SA mid north, while returning home for a Red Centre trip) - no problems - kept us toasty warm all day.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 06:24

Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 06:24
Hi Expanda and Darian,

We ran ours for hours each day when we were in Cooktown and it had no problems keeping the temp to whatever it was set on, around 22 degrees from memory. It was well over 30 outside and very humid and uncomfortable.

We have an 18 ft Sterling van but it would easlily do the job on a bigger one.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 17:16

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 17:16
Do you want to run it from a generator or always mains power? Consider the size of generator needed if you want to run it independently.

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Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:56

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:56
motherhen,
it looks like you guys spend a bit of time in the desert heat, we will be running on gen but have a 3kva ( should do the job ) how do you find the ability for the unit to bring the van down to a nice temp in the heat
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:14

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:14
Hi Expanda

We have a Dometic in our van which runs from the Honda 2, but although we used it just a few times in 2005 on our January south coast and Eyre Peninsula trip, we have not used it outside of a caravan park since. It cools the van down very quickly and we need to turn it off after about 2 hours. We did use it in CPs such as at Darwin and Mt Isa last year, but when out in the bush were happy to sit out in the shade and often a breeze on a hot afternoon rather than run the genny and shut ourselves inside the caravan. We have a 12 v fan to use in the van in the evenings. If a crocodile free and flowing river was near and i was hot, i would float in that until i cooled down, whereas my husband does not like the four letter word SWIM. We don't use the air con heater but last year when we hit a sudden cool change and my husband had bronchitis i bought a small fan heater and we stayed in CPs in nice rural towns for a few days to do day trips. We found our air con didn't work when we tried it at Mataranka last year, as it broken a gas line (common problem with wear and tear). We had it fixed in Darwin because we wanted to use it there and although tech said the same thing will happen again because it has reached that point, ours hasn't let us down yet.

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Reply By: Member - Terry W (ACT) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:48

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:48
We have had two Ibis, one in our 20 foot Sterling and the one in our current 21 foot Sterling. The first one was a dream: in Canberra winters it heated very well from temperatures inside the van of zero degrees, and it would pull down the internal temperature on a 38 degree day in the sun to 22 degrees quite quickly. And as others have said it was relatively quiet in operation.

Our current one is not as good. On a recent trip it was able to start raising the temperature from zero, but would "stall" at around 7 degrees for up to 20 minutes before eventually climbing again up to 22. It is going in for warranty investigation in a couple of weeks time, and hopefully it will turn out to be a minor and easily fixable issue.

From our experience with the first one, it is clear that they can be very effective at both heating and cooling, but unless our current one is a one-off problem, there would appear to be some variance in performance.

I hope this helps and does not cause more confusion.
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Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:00

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:00
great feed back, thanks.
I have heared that the new ones have an anti freeze mode that won't allow them to run below 2deg outside temp. my dometic would not have acheived this and was the same size.

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Follow Up By: Member - Charlie M (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:47

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:47
Hi Terry
Just my opinion on these aircond's not working below 4 degrees is that they don't have a external fan keeping the outside coil un frosted. The old rooftop units used to work below that temp, they had two sets of blowers. House aircond's use same gas as RV units and they work in low temp conditions.
I think it is to cut down on weight keep price lower and feed all this rubbish on compressors freezing fire ect as most people don't know difference.
they are a reverse cycle system so all that is happening in heat mode the internal unit becomes the heat pump and the out side unit is the cold side with now air blowing through fins the evaporated condensation turns to ice and freezes the core, when unit shuts down it take a long time before restart. That is why the thermostat is set to two to four degrees to try to stop unit freezing core.
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Chass
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