V8 Diesel or 4 Cyl?

Hi John.
Would suggest you take a look at post No 81427 re; "brunswick diesel" it may change your train of thought very quickly.
But in reality what is the sense in having "6.5 litres of grunt" in a 50-60 k zone
Paul

To be honest I think my chipped gu 3.0l auto would kick a v8 Chevrolet diesels butt down the quarter!

But when it comes to towing, especially overtaking it can be a frightening experience, gutless as, I dare say the v8 would kill it here.

You really have to way up cost and more so how long you'll keep it for.

Personally I'd keep it simple and go the stocker again.

Good luck either way!

For their capacity the 6.5s are under powered and even torque is ordinary (for their capacity).

Hi John

Just a hypothetical thought: What is your vehicle worth now? If it is worth $10,000 for the sake of the argument, and you get a full conversion of motor, radiator and gearbox it will be in the vicinity of say $20,000 or more. You still have Patrol worth $10,000 because of its model and age. Fine if it does what you want, but if it gets written off or you have to sell it, you get not much more than $10,000 when you have just added $20,000 to your $10,000 of vehicle.

Cheaper option may well be to trade in or sell it and buy a vehicle more suited to your needs.

Motherhen

My next door neighbour has a 4800 like mine John, and thrashed it to death.

I'd swear its out of the drive every morning dead cold before the engine has rotated 5 times.

Picked up a good one from wreckers at $5000 - this would be the way to go.

More torque down low than your diesel and massively more power up top
and I suspect fuel use would be similar.
On top of that you wouldn't be shaken to death.

Mind you , I have been told there are only 8 new 4800's left in Australia and they are then extinct - but at $51,000 , how could you go wrong ?

All great feed back, and much appreciated...once again. But i was wondering if anyone has a 4 cylinder 4X4 that can boast it can pull and/or overtake anything a V8 chevy diesel can? (or come close)

John

Hi John,

First up.....
Have I first hand experience with a 6.5L Chev? No.
Have I first hand experience with a 4 cyl turbo diesel? No.
Have I read lots and lots on this subject? Not really.
Am I an expert? No.
Do I have an opinion? Yes. LOL..... (Don't we all?)

I have spoken with many people about this for some years and have come to the following conclusion. I have a 95 TD42 GQ Patrol. It's fitted with a Garrett turbo from Turbo Glide in NSW. Pulls the Tvan like,.... errr.. like a turbo diesel Patrol towing a Tvan! Easy!! I have way over spent on our 4by, but can't bring myself to part with it. I was talking with a mate last Sunday about engines, and what we would do if our current engines reached the end of their life, and I think the Chev would suit me fine. Depends on where you go, and how far outback you travel. Our holidays are getting more and more remote, and high tech engines with fancy computers don't have a place in MY world at all. I want a 4by that the local mechanic in Outbacksville Australia knows how to fix should anything go awry. The 4 cyl diesels do go hard nowadays, no doubt about it, but off road up the side of a mountain, unless the revs are up so the turbo is doing it's job, you have a small 4 cyl engine trying to push 3 or so tonnes around. Not real good IMHO.
With that in mind, it occurred to me that MY other option, and possibly yours too, is to rebuild the TD42, adding a turbo if it doesn't already have one. The TD42 has plenty of low down grunt for low range driving, and the turbo, if properly installed/set up/maintained will provide adequate stonk to tow your trailer! And give it a heap more grunt between the traffic lights!!

Just a thought.

Cheers

Brian

P.S For all the blokes out there who read this and want to take me to task about my comments regarding 4 cyl turbo diesels, please understand that you are welcome to have your opinions, and I am allowed to have mine! So don't bother! ;-))

From a womans perspective, the Chev V8 has great power, it was fine around the city, had to use 2nd gear off the mark though. A 4.2L TD 1HDFTE may not be as powerful but sure is a lot quieter for those long trips! The V8 was mighty loud and seemed to have resonated on my side of the cab.

We've had 2 cars with the Brunswicks Deiesel in them, and I don't think my Husband has found anything else that compares to them power wise, he still thinks they are an awesome motor. He was reasonably happy with the 4.2 TD toyota donk in the next car after that but probably would have eventually chipped it or something.

Personally the noise really bothered me on the long trips, but then again some of the more modern cars (we had the V8 in a Troopie and 80 Series) probably better at keeping external noise out.

Our 80 series weighed well over 2t and no problem towing a camper with the chev at all.

Just had another brain drain...how about a performance enhanced exhaust system? Has anyone had one of these things done to their vehicles?
If this could 'eek' out a few more horses from the old 2.8, me thinks this could be a cheaper alternative coupled with a DP chip...?

John

Does anyone know of anyone on the East Coast that does the same things as Brunswick on the West Coast?

John

If you havent had a look already ,have a look at the cars guide website , a 98 built 105 cruiser with all the fruit , you name it its got it , fitted with a 6.5 brunswick diesel ,, a private sale at Kedron / Brisbane , just the photos can make you drool ,,LOL.