Driving time for the Birdsville Track & Bore Track

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 17:40
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Hi all,

Given the recent threads talking about road closures, waiting for Coopers Creek Ferry and the like. What would be a suitable driving time (days) to allow for Marree to Birdsville?

Also after similar information for Bore Track from Innamincka to the Corner?

Obviously weather will change everything but trying to do a realistic itinerary for travel from October 4 to November 5
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Reply By: Member - peter f (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 17:49

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 17:49
its an easy days drive to birdsville
from maree .and the ferry is well worth the time to cross on it
you ay ind the bore track is still closed .
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Reply By: mikehzz - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 18:17

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 18:17
Several months ago I left Marree at 8 am and easily arrived in Birdsville at 5 in the afternoon. I drove straight onto the ferry as if they were waiting just for me. I stopped for some fuel at Mungerannie and a bite to eat. I also admired the ferry from the other side for at least 10 minutes :-). Mike
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Reply By: blue one - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 20:02

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 20:02
Oli,
You can easily do the Bore track in one day if it's dry. Better off doing an overnighter as it is a spectacular part of the country.

Ring the station Bollards Lagoon 08 80913873 as it has been very wet and with the clay pans you will have to drive through I doubt it will be open.

I have never seen outback so wet.

Maybe time to change the travel plans.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 20:19

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 20:19
Hi Oliver
There was a news report on our local radio today about the condition of the Birdsville Track at the moment. The constant rain and hundreds of people driving on the very muddy conditions have cut the hell out of the track, to the point where one of the local station owners has never seen the Birdsville Track so cut up. Travel conditions are so bad that it is adding many more hours of travel to the already long trip.

If the track is in good condition, sure you can do it in one days travel, but if you have not driven the track before, enjoy the wild flowers and the many features and take 2 days or longer.

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Follow Up By: Member - Leon A (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 21:57

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 21:57
The track is not too bad apart from one section 23kms from Mungerannie which is the reason for the road being closed. There is one boghole that as you drive through the car dips down to the left and the water is about top of the headlights on my GU Patrol (2in, 33s). The transport guy came up the day we left for Birdsville and checked the hole for himself, got straight on his sat phone and had the track closed immediately due to safety concerns. It was beyond track preservation in this section. The rest is reasonable with most water crossings having a stony bottom.

One thing I could not believe was a bloke in his Subaru Forrester had got up to Mungerannie and was adamant he was going to Birdsville, luckily the bloke in the Prado that had water up to his windscreen talked him out of it.

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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:49

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:49
Leon...might sound like stupid questions, but could the bog hole be navigated around? And if the water level dropped, would it be easily negotiated by an AWD Holden Captiva type vehicle?

Meant to be leaving to head up that way on Monday and I've been watching the SA Roads website like a hawk.

This by far is THE BEST info I've had re the closure thus far. Only wish SA Roads had this sort of detail on their website.

Cheers....Fab.
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Follow Up By: Teraa - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 20:47

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 20:47
There's been more rain but we have had some good drying days but you will find that the water isn't going away as it usually does. If it is the school holidays when you come up expect a delay at the ferry. The track is trashed in most places but I am sure they are working on it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leon A (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 21:08

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 21:08
Fab there were some quite deep ruts as well, if the graders have been through you'll be fine if not there is no way a Captiva will go through. The sides of the road are alot softer than the middle of the track so there is no way around. The grader won't go through till it drys though.

The website says that the track is closed till at least this Friday and the highways camp is set up at Tippipilla campsite with all the machinery set to go. Might pay to check back again on Friday/Saturday. Clayton and Frome creeks at the bottom of the track were both running at 400mm.

Teraa has Paul got out of there yet he was hoping to leave on Tuesday sounded like he was running out of supplies.
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Reply By: miandering fiander - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 21:36

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 21:36
Easy days drive in the dry but why?
Enjoy yourself and take your time have a good look at the ferry and back in July there were river cruises as well.
Stop overnight at Mungeranie hotel and enjoy friendly Phil and his lovely wife's hospitality and great meals.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leon A (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 21:46

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 21:46
I agree, staying with Phil and Pam were definately one of the highlights of our trip. Pam cooks a top notch meal and Phil's a top bloke to have a beer or 10 with. Plus there is the hot springs to have a swim in and a walk around the wetlands is a must.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 22:18

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 22:18
Hi Leon A, your profile pic, is that Bloodscreek Windmill??

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Follow Up By: Member - Leon A (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 22:21

Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 22:21
Sure is taken last year before a Simpson crossing. Bloody huge windmill it's my patrol down the bottom to compare it to.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 23:02

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:57

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:57
Hi Deanna
I hope you enjoyed those lovely corrugation coming in on the Bloods Creek Road through to Dalhousie, they were far worst than the Anne Beadell.

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Follow Up By: Doodle - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:49

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:49
Hi Leon,
I agree with you 100%. Take the time to enjoy a coldie and a great meal with Phill and Pam at the Mungerannie Pub. BTW, Aminah & I decided to backtrack from Mungerannie and travelled up the Strez back to the Gold Coast. Great trip but good to be home.

Cheers.... Ken & Aminah
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Follow Up By: wjh41 - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 20:17

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 20:17
I agree with staying at Mungerannie,Phil and Pat are among the best outback pub people you will ever come across although he told me not to come back because I wouldn,t pull the starter motor out of his Range Rover. There are excellent camp spots a close walk to the pub and showers/toilets.

Have a good time Wally
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Follow Up By: Member - Leon A (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 20:54

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 20:54
Hi Ken good to hear you guys got back alright, there was a fair few cars go up the track the day we left thought you might have got through with them. Maybe we might catch up out on the tracks again sometime.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 02:01

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 02:01
Stephen L, yes there were patches but nothing we hadn't been on before, I expected the roads and tracks a lot worse than they were. Nothing could possibly be worse than the CSR. Corragations, I grew up on them, they don't bother me too much however, hubby doesn't like them at all, the boggy roads we were on he was OK with but not corragations. LOL We llove it out there though.
What dates were you on the Simpson? we could see where people (obviously you) were having fun on some of the lakes going across, by the time we got there a track had formed between the bog holes. I was so amazed at the water around Big Red, we have seen it dry and when we got on top and saw all that water, what an awesome sight.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:28

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:28
Hi Deanna
The point that I was making about the corrugations is that everyone makes comments on how bad they are out on the Anne Beadell, which we had just completed and when you travel in to Dalhousie from Bloods Creek, they were worse in my opinion. We were out in the Simpson for 4 days, from the 16th up to and including the 19th August.

When we went across, it was the easiest ever crossing that we have ever made over the Simpson and the dunes were very compact from the constant rain. All of the Lake crossing were firm but we came to grief on Lake Poeppel, after following the advise from 4 vehicles that we met 2 dunes before crossing it.

Yes that water around Big Red was unreal, but for us the highlight was the bird life. I have seen as good, if not better displays of wild flowers out there before but not the varied bird life.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:33

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:33
Hi again Stephen L, lovely photo's of the birds, there was a lot of bird life out there and yes the budgies around Eyre Creek were fantastic, we were only a few days behind you then, Poepel Lake was OK of you stayed on the tracks but deadly if you slipped off of them I believe.
We felt that the Simpson crossing was relatively easy, would be good to do it when it is dry in it's normal state but I am glad we were able to get out there and see the flowers and birds, scenery that I probably won't get to see again in my lifetime.

We haven't done the Anne Beadell but I know the CSR was bad in patches for corrugations.

Thanks again for the pics.

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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:12

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:12
Why drive all the way out there, to be in a hurry? Oliver, that isn't meant for you, but at others who have said it's a days drive..... I know people have different itinerary's and such, but it's a long way to go to be in rush to get somewhere else. It's something I just don't understand. There's a lot to see and do out there, slow down, take your time and experience it fully!

Anyways, in July the Bore track was closed, we traveled to Cameron Cnr via the road from Innamincka south, left at the "T" junction, east to the Epsilom Station sign, then south again to Cam Cnr. A very relaxing drive with beautiful scenery. Just something to consider if the Bore Track is still closed when you get out there.

I can't comment on the Birdsville Track, we drove up to it from Marree, didn't cross the Creek on the ferry as we were towing, just took photo's and took in the atmosphere.

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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 19:00

Wednesday, Sep 22, 2010 at 19:00
I had 5 days max away from my business including the weekend. I can sit on my butt at home and dream about it (I probably would have worked anyway) or I can get off my butt and drive 2 days to Maree, 1 day on the track, and 2 days home from Birdsville. It would be great to have the luxury of holidays or better still retirement. I could sniff every flower along the way. Almost everyone doing a quickie is not doing it by choice. Having said that I had a fantastic time, and will take another 5 days at the first opportunity. Mike
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 06:33

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 06:33
Hi Mike,
Good response... What is it that you do? I ask only because I'm self employed as well. My business is commercial refrigeration & air conditioning, and I have an established clientèle, which makes it difficult to escape from. However, I work in with another fellow, another sole trader, who is in the same situation and we cover each others work whilst one is on holidays. So on my recent 7 week extravaganza, he had my phone and conducted my business as though he owned it. He has just yesterday returned from an overseas trip, and I have covered his work while he was away. It can be a problem finding someone who you can trust with this, and also someone who can do the work at a standard you have set. I realize I am very lucky in this regard. Is this something that you can look into at all? The stresses of self employment can be debilitating, and let's face it, your health is the ticket to staying self employed. I have found the hard way that a good holiday is a necessity!

Just a thought.....

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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:10

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:10
G'day Brian,
I have a computer business that deals with quite large commercial networks on 24 hr call. My 2 sons have joined me in the last year but they are taking a while to get up to speed, it's quite complex and things are growing as well. Trust me, I'm out of here as soon as it's possible. I have.done several quickies this year to test the situation but it's not quite right yet. My plan is to be able to sit on top of Big Red and check the bank balance using my laptop to make sure they transferred my money, then go and see what's behind the next dune. We all have a dream but sometimes it doesn't work out when you breed your own replacement. My fingers are crossed.
Cheers,
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:32

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:32
Hi Mike,
I see your dilemma, so I'll retract my initial comment about being in a hurry.... at least for those in your situation.
Sounds like you have a plan, I particularly like the bit about checking your bank balance from Big red etc... LOL... that's gold!

Keep nutting away at it, and it will happen, that's been my philosophy! It won't be too long and it will come to fruition.

Cheers

Brian

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