Two Burner Stove
Submitted: Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 18:15
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Hi all
Just got back from a 6 month trip around Oz and while we were away our Jackeroo two burner stove decided to chuck a hissy and not light at all. Had a look at it today and I think the connections on the hose may not be working, especially the one that actually goes into the stove. Has a sort of "pointy thing" that needs to be pressed in to make it let gas through.
Has anyone any suggestions as to how to properly
test the hose or alternatively can I just buy a replacement hose.
Many thanks
John
Reply By: Best Off Road - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 18:56
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 18:56
It may be blocked jets. Take the burners off and the jets are weeny little brass things that you unscrew. Blow them out with a compressor and refit.
Worth trying before buying a new lead.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: SDG - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 22:09
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 22:09
I found giving he jets a squirt from a gas refill can works a treat. (the type you refill lighters with) Takes up no room in your
camping box when travelling..
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Reply By: taswegian - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 19:16
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 19:16
Hi
John,
Have had the same problem withe a jackaroo now do it up using a pair of pliers this helps compress the centre valve allowing the gas to flow.
Cheers,
Taswegian.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 20:01
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 20:01
John,
Did both burners fail at exactly the same time? If not, I don't think the problem can be attributed to the gas line. If they did, could be the line, but the most common fault we've experienced with the 2 burner Jackaroo is blocked jets. A dirty batch of "gas" (it's actually liquid in the bottle), and if some liquid gets into the lines, any goop in it blocks up the jets. These jets contain a porous layer which controls gas flow rate and keeps particles from reaching the jet proper, but seems to me it very rapidly gets choked if any liquid gets near it.
As Jim says, you could try removing the jets (they are screwed into the back of the taps) and cleaning with compressed air but I've had very little success with that approach. Cleaning by soaking in petrol rarely works.
Suggest as a first step, buy a couple of replacement jets from a
camping shop - (note the letter stamped on the present ones, probably "k", and get the same types. That letter defines the size of the jet.) Replace them and you probably have a fix.
HTH
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:09
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:09
John,
I've had success with blowing them out, but only after ditching the dud load of gas. I found I was blowing them out daily until i got some good gas, after that all was fine.
Regards,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 07:28
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 07:28
Jim,
I wasn't knocking your suggestion, I simply haven't had much luck using compressed air. The problem as you suggest is the gas - trouble is, one jet blocks up and so you use the other burner to boil
water for that cuppa, so now you have two blocked jets and no cuppa.
I've found that moving the bottle while it's connected to the stove can often cause a disaster. The liquid in the bottle sloshes around and gets into the gas delivery line, along with any goop. My guess is that it turns to gas at the nozzle, depositing the goop there.
In future I'll be more persistent in blowing them out. I'll also try Mick's trick of heating them first.
Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 09:23
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 09:23
John,
I didn't take it as knocking, it's all great shared information.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:17
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:17
I've found a good preventative measure seems to be to bleed the stove whenever you finish using it (ie turn off gas off at the bottle and then at the knobs). We used to turn it off at the stove and then at the bottle and found the stove started flaring up etc (different brand to yours) which probably indicated blocked jets etc. Once we started doing it the other way around we had no problems using a 2 burner stove when we were living in a shed for a year!
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:45
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:45
Yep I was advised to do this years ago and have had very little problems with jets since. Turn the gas off at the bottle and let it burn out then shut down the stove knobs.
As far as unblocking the jets, the best success I have had has been in using my little butance soldering iron. Remove the jets and hold them in pointy nosed pliers and heat them with the iron for a few minutes making sure you direct the flame into the jet if possible. Let them cool then blow them with the compressor. Has worked everytime I've done it (usually on other peoples stoves ;-)
Cheers Mick
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Follow Up By: The Esplanade - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:46
Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 21:46
We have a 2 burner stove that runs of our 9kg bottle.
It is a cast iron type. Is there a way to get them so them burn with more btu?
Ours don't get that hot. Has been like that since new. The flame is blue and runs fine, just would like more heat out of it.
Not trying to ambush the thread
Thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:06
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:06
hi
mick o advice is spot on i found the same
years ago i used to turn the stove off and then the bottle but after having blocked jets tried turning the bottle off and letting the burners go out never had a blocked jet since
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Reply By: Member - Russler - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 17:32
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 17:32
We had a similar problem last year, with a Gasmate stove (not sure how similar they are to the Jackaroos). Anyway, the valve in the stove was stuffed. It turned out to be a Schraeder valve (ie. car tyre valve), and the rubber had deteriorated after years of faithful service, and was jamming the valve in the closed position. So took a Schraeder valve from our box of spare parts, screwed the new one in, and hot coffee was back on the menu. Woohoo!!
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Follow Up By: westskip - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 19:12
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 19:12
B---y brilliant Russler. Having tried all the other solutions without success and still being convinced that the hose was the problem I checked out your solution and guess what? It worked. But I only have one burner working so I guess I'll have to either clear or get a new jet.
Many thanks
John
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Follow Up By: Member - Russler - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 20:11
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 20:11
Yep, I spent a fruitless 20-30 minutes trying to clear the hose on our stove too. We were up at
Coongie Lake at the time, so fortunately there was no rush (OTHER THAN NEED A COFFEE NEED A COFFEE NEED A COFFEE NOW!!!)
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Reply By: Sigmund - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:43
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:43
Thanks for your posts folks. V. helpful.
Our 3 burner Primus started flaring and sputtering after a gas refill at a remote roadhouse; then two burners pretty much choked off.
I've pulled the jets out and crikey they're fine. I have a manual pricker from a shellite hiking stove and that's too thick.
In case it's of use to others, the jet no. on the small middle burner is 18 and the larger burner is #20
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:39
Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:39
Just to add, the hoses do perish in time and I've had one that choked the gas supply to the stove.
It appears that Primus recommends that theirs be changed every 3 years or so, though I've had one that's been going for 14. Of course, it's only going to fail where another can't easily be obtained!
Their hoses have the manufacture date printed on them.
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