How to Air Conditioning Our Eagle Outback Camper

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:16
ThreadID: 82404 Views:23813 Replies:5 FollowUps:6
This Thread has been Archived
Has anyone had a dometic ceiling Air Con fitted to their campers?
I would like to know how it went and what troubles they had if any
Thanks Happy Eagle Camper
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: achjimmy - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:26

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:26
With the larger jayco pop tops I know they offer the option of roof mounted A/C but you have to get it factory fitted as they install an reinforcing frame in the roof. The only way I could see it being achievable may be if you made up a frame that sat on top and went across the roof using the strength of the edges? But you would have to look closely at the domectic units to see if this would work. Also when the compressor cuts in they can vibrate a bit which would be amplified by the pop top type roof.

Good luck

Jim
AnswerID: 435531

Reply By: Happy Eagle Camper - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:41

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:41
Thanks Jim, however I think you mean a larger pop top our camper is an Eagle Outback Camper which is the tent type with the 2 beds out each end.
The dometic air cons come with a H frame and the top of the camper is solid.
I have heard that there is more of a propblem with the struts in windy conditions and would like to find out how others have combat that problem?

I have been told we would have to have the top taken off and D's welded on each corner and tie it down.

I wondered if you could just screw a frame on top and tie it down with that?

Thanks Sue-Anne
AnswerID: 435558

Follow Up By: PradOz - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 13:41

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 13:41
What are you tying down with the D's you mention. If its the van roof and not the air con unit, you can fit something similar simply without removing the roof. At the top of the struts you will see a bolt. Wind the roof up about 30 cm to get at good working height, prop the roof on the corner you are working on, and remove the bolt. Replace it with a stainless steel eyebolt (avauilable at BCF and marine outlets in various sizes). You repeat at other corners and you are ready to tie the roof and brace the camper in windy situations. You really only need it on the side opposite the door if you use an annexe or awning, as that braces that side of your camper. My last van was a Swan and when in really bad storms and wind it felt and sounded lioke you were about to be blown away. Even tied the back of the Swan to the car bullbar one night. The canvas sides makes for a night of little sleep in those situations. But I never had any issues, just great sound effects, and sleepless nights while my son slept blissfully, completely unaware of the evenings events, cheers....
0
FollowupID: 706733

Follow Up By: Happy Eagle Camper - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:41

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:41
Thanks for the info but I have just found out why it can't be done. It's the winding mechanism is not strong enough and the cord isn't heavy duty cord and if it breaks you won't be able to wind it down.
However I'm still not beaten I'm looking into a ducted air con that's on the floor and working on an idea so the cold air is still ducted on the roof

Hopefully Happy Eagle Camper
0
FollowupID: 706799

Reply By: tojofixa - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:15

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:15
Hi, Happy Eagle,
I saw a Jayco Camper fitted with a household type split system reverse cycle air conditioner when we were in Katherine last July.
The compressor unit was mounted on the draw bar of the camper.
I dont know how the head unit was mounted but I would think it would be on the front wall of the camper just below the slide out bed.
Heard the owner comment that in Darwin the outside temp was in the mid thirties while the temp inside the camper was in the low teens.
You can get a small one of these units much cheaper than the rooftop units and I would think it woud be much easier to mount on a Jayco than a roof top unit.
Regards DS
AnswerID: 435605

Follow Up By: Happy Eagle Camper - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:47

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:47
Thanks DS
I have seen A-Vans with normal window air cons but wondered how cool it would be being on the floor when cold air falls not rises. If I can't do a ducted one I will have to look at that. The camper is in getting jobs done at the moment for a trip to Cape York next June hope it makes it without too many drama's. He is looking at ideas on how to go about fitting an air con as well.

Happy Eagle Camper
0
FollowupID: 706800

Reply By: Expanda 1756 - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 18:30

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 18:30
Howdy,
We had a jayco swan, we had it fitted with the dometic ducted system.
It worked o.k.
My option would be to go the roof mount 2200.
Works very well from what i have been told.

Cheers.
AnswerID: 435795

Follow Up By: Happy Eagle Camper - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:13

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:13
Gee I would like to know more about this ducted system sounds like it might be the way to go.
Could you tell me more about it, I have never seen a ducted system in a camper before but had thought it would be could done. We have our camper in shop getting various things done for the outback and he is thinking of way to do an air con without having it on the roof top we have been told that the pulleys in the winding mechanism isn't heavy duty and if the cords break we would have no hope of winding it down again as the sheer weight and in winding conditions so he's apprehensive to do a roof top but however I'm interested on how yours is done.
0
FollowupID: 707038

Reply By: Expanda 1756 - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 06:56

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 06:56
The unit we fitted was a dometic climaster ducted system the following link will show the system - www.dariocaravans.com.au/page.asp?parentid=6&parent2id=27&productid=700
The main unit will fit under your front seat and the air is then ducted around via 63mm tube, If you go this way i would advise strongly that you get the fitter to ducting with a refrigerant type closed cell foam insullation.
It conmes in 2m lengths and slides neatly over the ducting, this will increase the efficency to a large degree.
The unit is a little noisy but i insulated around the unit under the seat and this helped as well.

I ran the ducting x 2 around in the lounge and bought them up in each corner of the lounge above the back rest, this blows air up into the bed and lounge area.
the third duct I ran behind the fridge ( lagging here is critical due to the heat) then ran through the kitchen cupboard, behind the robe pointed towards the bed.
If you wish to call me i can explain further 0419644954.
The unit worked well, the problem with ac it needs to fall from as high as possible to call the air as is does not rise due to the hot air above.
Some ac is better than no ac.
Hope this helps.
As I said though my option would be a roof mount B2200, the issue with the winder is easily fixed, where the pulley system fixes to the floor of the van you need to replace the coach screws with bolts.
The cable is very strong the week point is the fixings they just tear out of the ply. This is the way to go as the air handler in the roof blows to the front and to the rear cooling the van very quickly, the aftermarket install is very easy and is a cheaper option.

Cheers
AnswerID: 435828

Follow Up By: Happy Eagle Camper - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 19:12

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 19:12
Hi Expanda 1756

Thanks very much for this Info I will pass it on to the caravan bloke that is doing all the jobs. it sounds like the way to go tho.

I had a look at the site you suggested and it looks simple enough but I guess looks can be deceiving and there will be some problems we will run into.
I hope the job we do is strong enough to handle going to Cape York. We won't be going places that will wreck the camper but some places I do want to visit on the way and I hope the air con is strong enough for the corrigation that I know we will be going over.
It's a 2009 camper so I do hope it is strong enough.
0
FollowupID: 707170

Follow Up By: Expanda 1756 - Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 05:53

Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 05:53
No worries,
I hope you have a great trip.

Cheers.
0
FollowupID: 707231

Sponsored Links