Anderson plug on a 2006 Turbo diesel cruiser
Submitted: Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:40
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Ian
Need some advice. Had a dual battery set up, battery management system & anderson plug in my 2002 patrol. Now driving a turbo cruiser which has two batteries standard.
Want to fit an anderson plug as about to pick up a new 20 ft Regent van fitted with plug & two 100amp batteries (with 2 X 130 watt solar panels).
1. Do I just wire the plug to one of the car batteries (earth to the chassis)?
2. Has the cruiser standard twin battery system got any sort of battery management system that I should cable to?
3. If wired direct to the battery do I run into trouble with different types of batteries together (van & vehicle)?
4. In standard form do I run the risk the charge in all the batteries will equalize & potentially give me trouble?
If any of these questions are stupid be gentle, electrics is not my strong point.
Reply By: drivesafe - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 21:57
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 21:57
Hi Ian, for the basic minimal set up, you would need to run 6B&S Twin ( 13.5mm2 x 2 ) or 16mm2 Twin from either one of your cranking batteries but if possible, try to make the connection to the battery the alternator is connected too, to minimise voltage drop.
You will need to fit a 50 amp auto resetting circuit breaker or 100 amp fuse on the positive cable, as close to the cranking battery as possible.
While running the cable to the rear can be done under the vehicle, but if you are planning to do any off roading, it is recommended to run the cable inside the cab. This is a bigger job but it’s much safer for the cable.
At the rear of the vehicle, fit your Anderson plug and mount it where it’s convenient to get at but out of harms way.
A little tip, save yourself a lot of problems and use genuine Anderson plugs, the Asian copies are grossly inferior and just don’t carry the same currents that the real Anderson plugs do.
On your van, run the same size cable and again fit a circuit breaker or fuse as close to the house batteries as possible.
With this set up, you can probably sit over night without any problems but if your planning to stop longer, you need to disconnect the Anderson plugs to remove the risk of flattening your cranking batteries.
A simple solution to avoid disconnecting the Anderson plugs is to install an isolator in the engine bay, on the beginning of the cable run to the van.
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Follow Up By: Ian - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:32
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:32
Hi drivesafe... thanks very much for your help. Ian
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 09:57
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 09:57
Firstly if the Cruiser has the original batteries they are linked as one and are only 400cca each.
This was done for cold countries
If you MM me i can give you instructions on how to split them as I have done and have installed 2 650cca N70zz batteries with a Redarc controller THis gives much more capacity as one N70 will start it no trouble
If you hook up to the original setup it may not start next morning if running a fridge off them.
Much better to split them and have one as an auxilary and one to start.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:57
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:57
Ps if you arent a member Email me at graham-h6 @ bigpond.com.au
I ran all my cables along the top off r/hand chassis rail and cable tied them to the existing wiring fixed along there. Had no probs in 60,000km.
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Follow Up By: Muddie - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 13:29
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 13:29
As Graham said this is the best, simplest and cheapest way to do aux battery in a 100TD also saves a bit of weight on the front end.
regards David
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 13:40
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 13:40
Thats tidy but you still need two larger batteries which ups the cost a bit
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Follow Up By: Ian - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:38
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:38
Thanks Graham & Muddie.. I never thought to split them & I was going to fit a 3rd battery as I spend time away in the
Vic high country with an Engel in the back.
Graham I will E mail you.
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Reply By: drivesafe - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 13:27
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 13:27
I think your all missing the point.
With Ian’s two cranking batteries, two house batteries and two 130w solar panels, he could set up
camp for a few days and not go anywhere near draining his cranking batteries down to a point of not being able to start his 4x4.
Unless he plans on sitting in one spot for more than two days, without turning the motor over, he can stay with a basic set and it will easily and safely meet his needs.
Furthermore, by drawing current from four batteries at the same time, the batteries themselves will not be worked as hard so should have a better life span plus if he does set up somewhere for more than a few days, if he decides to top the batteries up by running his motor, if he runs the motor for just 30 minute, because he is recharging 4 batteries at once, he will replace the equivalent of 2 hours of charge.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 13:39
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 13:39
You may have miised the point of splitting the 100ser batteries, because as I said the original ones are only about 400cca and are cabled together as one. Should you run them down there is a distinct possibility the vehicle wont start.
Thats why most of us split them with an isolator and change them as I have for two 660cca Hybrid batteries.
I also had two 100AH house AGM and solar in the van and never relied on the car exept for fridge use while travelling both in the van and the Waeco in the car.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: drivesafe - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:38
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:38
Hi Graham, and again, with all the battery capacity Ian has, he has no reason to do anything.
I have a large number of customers with dual starting batteries, who have split them by fitted one of my isolators.
I’m not out to spam the site so I will not name the isolator but my gear allows the cranking battery to be discharged down to 50% before the isolator separates the batteries.
Even with just the one cranking battery, none of my customers have any problems starting their vehicles with a single cranking battery with an SoC of 50%.
So with Ian’s set up, it is highly unlikely that short of at least three or four days of
free camping, he is never going to discharge all his batteries to anywhere near 50% SoC, and as such, why spend money when it’s not needed.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:50
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:50
But are you talking about 50% as being 6 volts or 50% of advisable drop to about 10.5 volts.
Big difference to the uninitiated
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Follow Up By: drivesafe - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 21:52
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 21:52
Hi Graham, the designation of SoC ( State of Charge ) means 50% would 12.06v
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