Jerry can rust

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:17
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Is there anything that can be done about rust inside a metal army Jerry can, apart from throwing it away. Small perforations in the interior paint coating have resulted in small flakes of rust coming out. I was about to dispose of it but thought I'd just post the question here first, as you never know, with all the knowledge on this site, someone may have an idea.

Thanks Jon
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Reply By: dbish - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:26

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:26
Yes keep moisture out of them, I have 10 steel jerry cans &most of them are 30Yrs old & still good.
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Follow Up By: Member - GeeTee (NT) - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:42

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:42
Not really answering the question !!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:54

Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:54
A logical answer dbish. A good rinse out and keeping fuel in should stop the rust.
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Follow Up By: dbish - Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 13:26

Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 13:26
Sorry for the sarcasm.
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Follow Up By: dbish - Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 13:31

Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 13:31
I must admit my steel jerry cans are for long term storage of petrol & kept full. I find plastic jerry cans dont cut it for that use.
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Reply By: landseka - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:46

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:46
Unfortunately, doing what dbish said will not fix the rust problem. It is in there and probably nothing will fix it short of soaking it in a rust converter.

I would be inclined to keep using it in conjunction with a filter to keep the worst of the crap from your car's tank and trust it's filter to get the rest.

When the jerry's rust gets so bad that it leaks then toss it.

Cheers Neil.
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:54

Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:54
The rust is a result of water and air... so dbish got it right.

The filter IS important though.
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Reply By: AGNI4x4 - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:47

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:47
We use a sealer to re juvenate old motorcycle tanks, but in saying that these are no longer available and it would cost more to treat the inside of the jerry than it would to replace it.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 08:42

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 08:42
KBS coatings used it on my Bike good stuff
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Reply By: Axle - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:57

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 22:57
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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 23:13

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 23:13
hi jon
i would not keep an internally rusted jerrycan with small perforations as it is very hard to guess or guage just how deep they are------ until it leaks as suggested
and rust will destroy fuel pumps /injectors and block filters

if it leaks on a trip and does so unnoticed its fuel could quiet easily find it way onto your vehicles hot exhaust while your driving and start a fire that destroys your entire rig en-route

my advice

is ditch it before you regret it throw it, away and buy a replacement

that's the best advice i can give you and good insurance against the above happening
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Reply By: stans truck - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 00:19

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 00:19
Hi there had the same problem, do yourself a favor and buy some plastic
jerry cans wait till supercheap has a sale on i payed $20 for one cheep
as chips regards STAN.
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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 08:57

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 08:57
Hi Jon

You could try this stuff from KBS coatings.
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But it's not cheap worth more than the jerry can.

A cheaper alternative what they do with rusty motor cycle tanks is use a water based rusted converter. but always keep the drum full of fuel when stored for extended periods.

But i know it's not easy i had about 6 steel jerry cans and they all look good and robust from the out side but the inside was not the best.
was reluctant to chuck them.

The plastic willow drums are the way to go wait till there on sale
and grab a few.

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Reply By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 09:40

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 09:40
Hi Jon
I'd suggest you do a risk assessment on consequences of crap in your tank and the effect on filters etc against where you are likely to find yourself and having to effect repairs. If you are not travelling remotely then consequence is low and merely inconvenient. Cost of a new jerry is far less in any circumstance so if it was mine I'd chuck it and get a new one, probably plastic. Cheers
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 16:24

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 16:24
I would not buy a brand new steel jerry if they were $1 each.
Get yourself some decent plastic ones, preferably Rheem, not the "wedge" shaped ones.

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Reply By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 16:56

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 16:56
If you are using cans with some contaminates then use one of these
http://www.mrfunnel.com/Mr._Funnel/Home.html
We took one on our trip for fuel in out of the way places. Slow to use but gives an indication if fuel is clean. If after the first few lts it is clear just fill up normally. Good for use with jerry cans as some cans will draw moisture in at night from the air.

Josh
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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 18:12

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 18:12
hi josh
from my many many years of handling fuel as a farmer and 4wder i have trouble excepting your advice re---- if the first few litres is ok discard the funnel and fill up as normal ----
well this is totally contrary to what ive found from my experince the dirty/contaminated fuel is always at the bottom of the container and thats when you really need a mrfunnel/filter
cheers and have a safe and hny
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 20:45

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 20:45
Sorry I didn't make myself clear enough. I meant when filling at a bowser check the first few lts then ok fill up. This is mainly for moisture in the fuel. Out of the jerrys I used it for the whole lot. I agree the crap is always on the bottom.

Josh
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Follow Up By: howie - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 14:13

Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 14:13
i have used these funnels for years in aviation.
i only use 'fresh' fuel and not fuel that has been stored (by me anyway), apparently this is when fuel is most likely to absorb moisture.
however, how would you tell from the first few litres if there was water in the fuel?
i use the funnel then throw away the residue.
i think the funnel works on the principle of water molecules being too big to go thru the mesh, so they collect in the bottom.
i have a fuel tap at the lowest point of the fuel tank to take a sample in a glass jar to visually check for water.
you might do this, but do not say, but your method should at least include pouring the residue from the funnel into a clear inspection jar.




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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 17:17

Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 17:17
Sorry I thought there would be an amount of common sense in this but obviously not.
Put the fuel through the filter. After a couple of ltrs or what you think would be enough, then pour the residue ( that is the stuff the filter has caught) into a jar and inspect for water or contaminates. If there is none then it is your choice to continue with or without the filter. If you find contaminates it is then your choice again to continue with or without the filter or choose not to continue filling from that point.
I thought it would be obvious to check the fuel for contaminates after filling with a few ltrs so I didn't mention it.
Hope this has clarified any concerns.

Josh
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Reply By: Member - Russler - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 18:40

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 18:40
Not that this suggestion helps you now that your jerry is rusted, but my mechanic suggested I keep a bit of petrol (not diesel) in mine to help keep the moisture at bay. Hopefully it's a good tip. I'd then dispose of the petrol and fill with diesel when required.

P.S. I'd bin the rusty ones
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Reply By: happytravelers - Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 20:45

Thursday, Dec 30, 2010 at 20:45
Thank you all very much for your input, I had acquired this can recently and had no intention of using it unless there was a way to permanently fix the rust. I have a few other metal Jerrys that are all in good condition and checked regularly.
So I think I'll be throwing it away. I do however appreciate the time that everybody has taken to reply to my question.

Regards Jon
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Follow Up By: trainslux - Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 08:40

Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 08:40
Before you go and throw it away.
Ive had good success with putting in a cup of metal screws/ nuts etc, and some diesel in the bottom of the can.
Drive for a few weeks with it in the back/ on roof / whatever.
Empty, rinse, and inside the jerry is clean and debrits free.
Also works on that pesky marone brown paint that the old DoD jerries used to have coat them, and it peels off.

Trains

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Reply By: poppywhite - Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 09:20

Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 09:20
Cut your losses and replace with new can manufactured to AU standad and material of your choice.
Unless you have a genuine can that was part as supplied as origional with a MOG or other military / historic vehicle and require that, you are wasting time and money.
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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 14:12

Friday, Dec 31, 2010 at 14:12
Well, there are jerry cans, and there are jerry cans, and they are NOT all created equal ;-)

There has already been a few good suggestions on how to deal with minor surface rust / flaking paint, & I have nothing to add...

I always use a funnel w/- a fine (very fine) s/s mesh strainer when decanting from any portable container (especially the metal ones) ... YMMV

If the jerry can in question is ex Australian army, Swiss army, NATO, or one of the Latvian made ones (sold here under the Pro Quip label), and you decide to throw it away, feel free to throw it my way....

:)

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....Not necessarily mechanic!!"

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