It just wasn't meant to be! Another used car story!

Just my opinion and I don't know the rest of the story, sure I'd be upset but really let's be honest, most used 4bies have been on holidays somewhere with the family four wheel driving and fishing, why not use it to your advantage and ask for more of a discount on the jack for the extra k's and the inconveinance?

Jeff

The Dealer basically said that there is no way he'll go below $18K, nothing in it for him and he says in another couple of weeks he'll put the price up to $22500 cause he will be inundated with country folk looking for 4WD's at xmas time and he'll be able to sell it no problems. Again BS BS BS!!!

These things happen for a reason so I am trying to calm down and move on.

He knew that I was interested and I told him when the money will be available plus left my b/card with him so if he doesn't want to sell the car he can shove it you know where!

cheers

lmfao......mate that happens in all yards ...staff all take cars for some reason or other holidays included .....dont be too concerned about it because the mechanic will actually look after it...........bs you say ...no i say because all staff in yards sign a little piece of paper that says damage is at there own expense and the jab is usually about 2 grand and i know when ive taken fourbys out of the yard that ive looked after them because if i wreck it how am i gonna sell it and ive had yard cars all over the east coast on hols on and off road i put one ding golf ball size in a 100series once and it cost me 1200.......pity it wasnt in a spot where dent busters could get it... obviuosly you looked at the car
previously why didnt you buy it then???.......why didnt you sign a contract and put five hundred down on the car when the salesman pressed you.....your not telling us he didnt press you......OH you procrastinated....typical 4wd buyer....hmmm i would like a dollar for every bloke who walked away from me when i showed him a good truck at the right price ......because he just couldnt get his head around the fact that it was a good thing at the right price.....even when ive given him the truck for the day so hes had ample time to check the mechs out show the missus and ive given him drug money for the trade and guess what he comes back the next day its sold.........and i love telling em its sold too.....
bet you came up with one of the three standard excuses to walk away the first time......1 missus has to look at it..2 have to speak to my bank. 3 i have another car to look at.........sound familiar
the used car that you looked at today and are thinking about tonight is the same car that another bloke looked at yesterday and he thought about it last night
get the picture!!.......personally im getting a bit sick of opening the forum and having blokes slag car dealers..... where not all p****s you know....im writing a book about how to overcome the fear of making that purchase decision chapter one .......if it looks good drives good and the price is right buy it.......maybe you should read it

good on ya i wouldnt of bought it ,when i bought mine they were runnin around in it i spose because it is a ute. But that fact made me more incline to buy it anyway plenty more around try action moters or joe crisafio is were i bought mine side steps steel bull bar thrown in.gu bush basha

why would he drop his price.........monterays are like rocking horse poop mate ....
know your market .......he will sell that truck no probs if not to you then someone else....you can take that to the bank......as i siad you should have bought it last time

What are you winging for its a free market you had and still have your chance up to you to get off the pot and make a decision And hey dont have a go at the dealer he told you the truth knowing what it could do to the sale,respect him for telling the truth.

DOGART
there is a saying in our neck of the woods I think it applies
here that car salesmen are unemployable people
Friar

Sorry to say but , why whouldnt he give it to his mechanic ? Ok so you walken in , said I want this car , dont sell it i'll be back tomorrow , you turned up the next day as promissed , car wasn't there . OR WAS IT Hi mate your car is to expensive , ill come back when the price drops . The car now has 1000 more KMS . the previous 100 000 didnt kill it , the last 1000 did . Last week a young bloke came in to look at a 180 sx , said staight out , I love the car , I only have this much , can we talk buisness ?? I checked the figures and the deal was on the money . He asked me to take him to the bank with the car , since he didnt want it sold to anyone else. I laughed and told him to take his time , was back in 15 min with the deposit . I have had 5 people want it whilst it sat waiting for Reg , so we gave the young bloke all the numbers just incase he wanted to sell it for a quick buck . Bottom line , know your market , sellect your car , you like it , its on the money , buy it . We sell 10 cars a week , in a month we sell more cars than you will own in a life time , do you think you can pull one on us ? I prased this young bloke , more sence than some adults . I dont want to bag you mate, put look at your own line of work , when some one comes in to you and is straight up , you bend over backwards for him . I do consider this though , there are alot of bad yards around the country , you walk in , you see straight through them and you walk away . Venus Bay

dogart my boy im gonna tell you how to buy that car and still make sure that its in as good nick when you get it as when you saw it last..........what you say bs what if the mechanics flogged it im not buying a car unseen you say...
ok..... in the contract will be a section F ...in that section it allows for special conditions to be added to the contract......go back to the dealer tell him you want it and that your worried about the condition..re the mechanic etc etc.....tell him you will sign up for the car as long as he puts these words EXACTLY in the section F of the contract " purchase made subject to a satisfactory physical and mechanical inspection of the vehicle by the purchaser " this will give you a get out of the contract even if the mechanics put one little scratch on it.........the dealer will probably make a lot of niose about this because he knows its a get out but ignore it .....if the dealers genuine and the cars right he will do it..if he wont do it then the cars not right and hes trying to stick you with a sh** box ......when the car comes back go right up it if your not happy pull the deal by law hes gotts give you back the deposit under these conditions
love from me to you.......see where not all p***ks are we......

cheers for the replies for and against my way of thinking!

I spoke to the dealer last week and made my intentions clear.
Was to the point, said the money was coming through next week which
is the fact, and I'll be intouch. Didn't want to bleep in his pocket with maybes and BS.

I have to look after myself too so I though I'd have more bargining power
when the money is in the bank and I can make an outright offer then and there,
write out a cheque, take it or leave it senario.
Showing that I was keen and offering a deposit shows him that I will pay what he wants not what I want to fork out...get my drift!
I was willing to take the risk that if the car was sold so be it.
As i said, a week ago he told me that $18 was the limit and it was going up in price
in a couple of weeks, I didn't believe his BS and said I'll be intouch.

The money came through today and within an hour we were down there all ready to
pay for the car. No checks no BS make an offer take it or leave it.

I am well aware that cars are taken home for the night or maybe the odd weekend,
but to let it go for a 5 day holiday is taking the bleep big time.

And I am pretty sure that this yard doesn't have any bits of paper thet the mechanic would sign saying that if ya scratch it ia fix it. bleep , the car wasn't even tuned for possible sale. Took a few goes to get it started and when it did it blew a fair but of
white smoke. Wasn't even washed, nothing.

When I calm down I might put tongue in cheek and call him up tomorrow and basically
tell him if he wants to sell the car get the F&$%#ing thing back up here today before
his mechanic can practise his 4x4 skills over the weekend.

nah i dont think you will do any better for the inconvenience and 1000ks as was mentioned before wont kill it cause the first 100000ks didnt.......tell us about the car
its a 94 jacky monterey kms? transmission? colour? fuel type? rego how much? is there anything to be spent around the car tyres? dents? rips upholstery? has the car had a whack that you could pick eg piant off bolts for gaurds/bonnet overspray anywhere or piant mismatch however slight any where on it? rust? .....because there seems to be a few dealers that read this thread maybe boys we could give him a whole sale price and a good retail price just to see if hes gettin the right kind of deal

Rite

You say :- "Talk to the hand assho#$" ........"IM OUTTA HERE -MATE"

He says:- "no ..but wait"

You say:- "go and do yourself" "its no wonder your selling cars"!

End of story... NEXT
(plenty more cars in the sea)

CHeers

Next time you see a car that you want to buy, either sign a contract or pay a deposit. You can't expect sellers to hold a car just because you looked at it. A one week holiday isn't going to wreck it either you know. But don't be too worried because $18000 is FAR too much for a 9year old Jackaroo!!!!
They say most car purchases are emotional situations and your post is full of emotion with very little cool consideration of facts!!

Just a little tip, when your in the market , it dosnt matter if you have the money today or next week , if you want to do a deal , they will listen , they ask , are you ready to buy , not is the money in the bank . You could have done the same deal if your money had come through already or not . All you need to say is , I am ready to purchase on the right deal , and yes , I can purchase today . Purchsing today means you can put a deposit and sighn up. When you sighn up , tell them to put the delivery date when it suits you to pick it up . Make sure they give you a copy of the RWC , if anything is doggie there , you can go to Road transport athoroty direct . This make Mechanics sh*t themselves . If it blows exesive smoke it wont get a RWC anyway , they will have to fix it . I didnt read the vehicle specs , but remeber this enything over 10 years old and over 160,000 kms means no statutory warranty .Venus Bay

Welcome to the club Dogart - I got well and truly caned when I had a gripe about "car salesmen" - a real can of worms opened up! I wonder if each and every one of the posters have bought brand new, never been ripped off etc - suppose I will get some flak from this too - oh, well I have big shoulders!

don't get me wrong, these guys have to make a living and I can understand that they deal with pricks like me everyday, but what I experienced was just a bit over the top. I understand that cars are taken home for the night and on weekends.
But to let one out for a 5 day fishing holiday when I told the dude last week that I'll be back this week with the moola and have given him my business card...well that IS taking the piss!

We still want the car and a jackaroo monty with those km's etc is a dime a dozen. Might still go back and hagle a bit next week and see what can be done, but will expect a bit of a better deal now that this has happened.

Eric & m'gutz have been great and as I said before I wish they were in Perth, I'd be buying off them no probs.

Buy car off Muddy or eric , fly over for look, drive or stick car on train home, odds are will still be in front on the moola......Life is short- but there's always time for a yarda.

just looking at what you say 150000kms good ks for a nine yo caralong with a few nice bolt on goodies bar steps etc etc .....the fact that you have to put a tyre on .a taillamp. and fix the front end somewhere....as well as a bit of the dreaded iron worms due to a whack which you said wasnt to bad but you were not quite happy with the rust the way it was (as i wouldnt be either with rust)means shelling out a grand maybe 1500 to make it a good thing
i would say that 18 is probably too much try and bust him some more .....if the car was 18 with no spend its about right but it seems about a grand to 1500 too dear
try and bust him some more.......disregard the fact that the previous owner got 16 for the trade as you dont know how much profit the car he was buying had in it and it is common for a dealer to take some of that profit and put it on top of the wholesale value to make the trade in look bigger.....
i reckon wholesale value 12-13 grand
retail value 16-17 grand for that car
what do you other blokes reckon its worth given his description

Have you considered engaging an agent to act on your behalf? There are real experts out there who for $500 or so will locate you a vehicle of your choice from the trade side of the equation rather than retail. Just get it checked out by a reputable mechanic/motoring organisation before handing over the reddies. No time to procrastinate or haggle however! Good luck.

Decided to go in and make an offer on the Montie.
Started at $16500 and left it with him at $17000.
He still tells me that with xmas and all coming up and
the influx of country folk looking to buy he'll be able to
sell for $19000. Also reackons that if he put an advert in
the weekend paper for $17990 he'll sell it straight away.
still a load of BS!
I left him my b/card (again) and told him to contact "me" if
he's interested in selling the car.

see what happens!

cheers for all the input especially m'gutz and eric (again)
I might have to start looking interstate, $400 return flight from Perth
and about $800 to transport 4WD back might just be worth it!

Well the deed has been done!
Purchased the Monty today for a bit more than I was wanting to part with,
but at the end of the day it's what we wanted and they don't come up very
often (the Monterey version that is), has all the bells & whistles
that will make it an absolute pleasure to drive.
It's actually in better condition than I first thought after going over it even closer
when we got it home. Been driving it around (smooth as!) showing it orf to friends
and family and we are happy that we did go ahead with the purchase.
Those that we have showed it to can't believe the condition and features for
it's age.

WOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!
cost me $17900!
sold the old jack for $1800 privately! so doesn't seem too bad considering,
look at it as same as trade in so the end price you could say...$16100!!!
one way of looking at it I spose!

cheers
wolf