12 pin plugs V 7 pin
Submitted: Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 16:14
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Ian & Sue
Hi all
Question? I am thinking about having a 12 pin plug wired to the new Cruiser when they fit the wiring harness this week. Seems like a good idea BUT then I thought what about when I want to tow the trailer - searched for a suitable adapter on the net but it doesnt look like there are any. What do you have on your rigs?
Although we have a Coromal PC541 at the moment we are working on upgrading to the Kedron - not sure if this is relevant.
Cheers
Sue
asking on behalf of my hubby.
Reply By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 16:59
Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 16:59
Hi Sue,
I assume when you say you looked for an adapter you wanted to connect a 7 pin flat plug (male) to a 12 pin flat (female)....if so you dont need an adapter, a 7 pin flat plug will fit into a 12 pin recess & works fine it just doesnt line up with the extra 5 larger pins.
I actually fitted a 12 pin plug to my 200 series prior to picking up our new Kedron.....using the larger pins for chaging the van batteries works OK for a while....but the with the heat generated in the process the plastic around the pins gets hot & distorts, making for a poor connection. Ended up scrapping the 12 pin plug, & fitting a 7 pin plug & 50 amp Anderson Plug...all good now very happy.
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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 18:58
Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 18:58
I've been using the 12 pin on the Ultimate Camper Trailer now for almost 12 years. I also have a box trailer with a flat 7 pin plug and it fits straight into the top half of the 12 pin plug.
I too only use 2 of the bottom row of larger pins on the 12 pin plug....to charge the twin batteries in the camper. The cables go via an Arrid Twin Charge (a primitive version of a DC to DC charger....there are much better options available these days but
mine still works quite okay). Because the power is going to the DC to DC charger, I don't need to carry huge amperages and the 12 pin plugs copes quite
well with the current.
So, Sue, I suggest you use the 12 pin female plug and a suitable (ie: flat) 7 pin plug on your box trailer.
Too easy.
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Follow Up By: Uncle-Laurie - Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 19:57
Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 19:57
We have a similar set up to Roachie on our van.and works very
well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 00:57
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 00:57
Hi Tony,
Very suprised you had heat buildup in your 12 pin. I have used a 12 pin for years running some heavy loads at times and never had an issue. Do you know if one of the large pins was used for the earth? If only a heavy +ve cable was fitted and the standard earth on the 7 pin side used, then this may have been a cause. My 12 pin is rated for 45A, very similair to the common 50A anderson size most often used.
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 09:20
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 09:20
Hi Tony – I had similar problems
I had a 12 pin flat plastic and a small 7 pin for a couple of years but they caused me a bit of grief.
Possible due to the fact that I put them through water and they were subjected a bit of dust.
I wouldn’t use anything but the large 7 pin plug (Mercedes used to fit them to their vehicles) – a much more substantial unit. If you need more than 7 pins use two plugs.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 17:15
Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 17:15
A large Round 7 pin and Anderson Plugs for me You can get a 7pin round to 7or 12 pin flat adapter. Ive got one I dont use now.
Autobarn sell them in different configurations.
Wouldnt use a 12 pin to charge batteries or run fridge for reasons mentioned above.
Firstly the wiring is not heavy enough and heats up as does the plug.
Far better to get some 6 B& S from the battery to the rear of the car and same on the A frame to batteries and fridge.
I have a separate 8 B & S for the fridge on a second Anderson plug.
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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 19:55
Saturday, Jan 08, 2011 at 19:55
A huge thanks to everyone for replying and telling us of your experiences. A question he had thought of but not asked even got answered, namely the 7 pin flat fitting the 12 pin.
Ian has pretty much decided he will go with what we used to use on the Jeep which was the flat 7 pin and an anderson plug - he has a load of technical reasons for this which I know all of you understand but for this little pink duck its gone over my head! LOL.
You guys have saved me from an afternoon of listening to the "what do you think if I...." I owe you all a coffee when we met on the Wallaby someday.
Cheers
Sue
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